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Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,108 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    There to much hype about this now for it not to happen.

    We want D'Onofrio back as well.




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Hmmm. Definitely putting this under a "believe it when I see it".

    Plus, what I really liked about Daredevil, was that the Netflix show really kept the fights grounded, and punishing. Often by the end of the set-pieces, Matt Murdock would be panting, barely standing up. The show had big flaws but it really pushed this idea that as superpowered as he was, Daredevil was still just a man who tires. Split lips n' all.

    I'd "worry" that an MCU Daredevil won't have that bruising physicality translated over; and will just be like Black Widow where he bounces about like rubber when the action blasts off, and gets moved to a render farm in Indonesia.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Such a misleading headline, Feige said he would cast Cox if they did bring DD back but he didn't confirm it had already happened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,420 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    If they did bring him back or D'Onofrio as Kingpin, how would they handle it? Like do we have to get their backstories or will they assume people watched the netflix series even if they're not canon? No real reason not to be canon, just no need to refer to them.

    Then again how many times have we seen Spider-man, Batman and Superman origins stories despite them being the best known? Though I guess they usually add an element to tie it to the main story in some way



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Don't think you'd need much explanation: "Mob boss, but he's a mountain of a man" kinda writes itself, and anyone who knows him from before will obviously fill the blanks in retroactively. The rest would recognise the threat by Fisk's actions and presence in the story.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Have seen this story going around, not in any major trades but we know she is anti-vax so it wouldn't be altogether surprising.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,316 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    If it's true then unlike Bosman the question of recasting is a lot more tasteful. Very little sympathies for Wright here if the story's true; individualism has been a very selfish, shítty attitude in a pandemic. Within the film though, can't have both siblings disappear from the franchise, so an opportunity might be presented to a young upcoming star to put on a cod African accent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,108 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    You would hope they at least tried to educate her on the benefits of being vaccinated which I’d imagine they did and have been left with no choice in the matter as the health and safety of the rest of the cast and crew out weights the need for an anti vax employee.


    It also sends a very clear message to others who might be happy to put their colleagues at risk .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,298 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    It's a shame because Shuri was definitely a highlight of Black Panther. She did however have a different voice actor on What If.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    She was good in the role and she had chemistry with Bosman but unfortunately that's not important anymore. I think it's crazy that someone so young would give up being in the MCU over something like this but she must feel very strongly about it and if that's the case then Disney are probably best off being rid of her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Similar to Kyrie Irving who's one of the best guards in the NBA. He's refusing to get vaxxed so NBA won't let him play so he's sitting out with the possibility of actually retiring at 29 instead of just getting vaxxed. He also said once that he didn't know if the earth was round or flat so there's that. Millions of dollars in the line and affects many many other people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,316 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Her mind-numbing stupidity will put a mark over the rest of her career. Its her own doing so hard to feel any sympathy.



  • Posts: 8,385 [Deleted User]


    Delighted that she's gone. It's past time that society stops bowing down to these selfish idiots.


    Do as you want but there are consequences to actions



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,687 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I don't know the background to this story and wouldn't be inclined to trust some dude on Twitter, but if there's truth to it and if they can't work around the studio's vaccine mandate and the US travel restrictions, I wonder if Disney will end up just scrapping the whole film? I assume Wright had a big role, possibly the central character. Too big to just add her in via green screen like they did in Endgame. Did they have much left to shoot? This production seems cursed.



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    If they scrap the movie that's her done as an actress she has just put thousands of people out of work with total selfishness no one the the industry will ever want to work with her again. I just hope they didn't put the mantle of Black Panther on her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,298 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I followed her on Instagram for a time but it tended to be mostly sharing of "Jesus is the light" spiritual type of content. Not exactly as hostile as some of the stuff Star Wars actor Gina Carno was sharing but not of interest either. It's possible being anti vax is in character with her.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    They won't scrap the movie, they've already started filming, it's not like it's a one off, it's part of a multi-franchise franchise. I think they'll have to finish it with her, it's either that or recast mid shoot, maybe pull an All the Money In The World or find a way to finish it without her with a few rewrites



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I imagine if BIG-EVENT kills Black Panther off screen. It could easily take out people around him.

    So, if they were looking to remove anyone else from the Wakanda side of the cast at the moment, they are probably figuring that's an easy catch-all.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,687 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    If they didn't recast Boseman they aren't going to recast Shuri. And writing her out of the film mid-production isn't practical if they've already shot most of the movie. They have filmed 2-3 months of the film already right? And they stopped production for her so her role is clearly too large to do a Christopher Plummer on it or else they would have done it already. I think it's fair to say that replacing her would be a big deal involving significant re-writes, reshoots and delays.

    Anyway it looks like this story is bs. Whatever about Wright's future in the MCU, I reckon the studio will do whatever they have to do finish the film with her, including moving production to the UK.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I wouldn't say off screen. They won't recast and I'd say it's 50/50 whether they CGI his face but I'd be bullish enough to say they'll kill off Black Panther mid-mission, in the suit and masked up. If nothing else it'd establish the bona fides of the Big Bad for the movie, if they killed of the hero in Act 1.

    I suppose they could open with the funeral, or a reaction scene from Avengers HQ as they hear the news but that just feels clumsy; and no more respectful than letting us see BP go down fighting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,108 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Official poster for Thor 4




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,092 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Horrible looking poster. Looks like cheap made fab art.

    Not announced on any official marvel channels yet so hopefully it gets dismissed soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Do it! Strip back the stark tech and avengers cameos, let Spidey take care of himself.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    It would be great but anyone who's been watching Hawkeye

    Knows that it's looking more and more likely that whilst they may bring back Fisk, it will be for the Echo show.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    They've definitely shown a lot of respect for Boseman in the What If...? show. I'd imagine if they could do as much as possible for him, they'll try their best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,293 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Would love if they found a way to 'multiverse' in a good version of Killmonger as Black Panther, from a reality where T'Chaka didn't kill his Dad, and instead brought them back to Wakanda.



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    I was, honestly, thinking that's where they would go in What If



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭irish_stevo815


    The opeing sequence could be animated, in the style of old African tribe paintings, to explain the passing of T'Challa in a respectful way.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,179 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Can't wait to see Spider Man No Way Home but please god were mot not be trolled again and there will be no sign of Maguires and Garfields versions of Spidey. Me thinks if they do show up then one of them is going to die.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    Can we talk about the MCU impact after No Way Home?

    I’m not going to give specific spoilers on No Way Home but things have happened that effect the MCU greatly.

    Basically I’m not spoiling anything but they’ve written this movie in a way that possibly sidelines Spiderman at the end. It’s clever because it could go either way. I’ve no idea if Sony are going to allow Disney to use Spidey again so I’ll have to do my research but this felt like a “goodbye for now” type movie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Thought the same! really interested to see where it goes and the likelihood now that his 2 sidekicks are ducking out for any sequels going forward



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,108 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I felt it sets up


    Miles Morles to join the MCU as Spider Man and let Peter Parker go off to Sony if a deal isn’t reached.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    That can’t happen. Sony own all Spidermen and Spiderman related villains. It’s the same problem either way. Sony are in a strong position now with the animated Spiderverse movies and the Venom movies. They are less likely to give any Spiderman property to Disney now.

    Technically the MCU Tom Holland movies are Sony’s movies. Sony have been quite smart/fortunate by lending him to Disney so they might take him back and do a non MCU movie with Venom. Not sure that’s smart for long term box office success though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,108 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Ah ok

    I thought with Miles only being created in 2011 after Sony got the rights to Spider Man 1999 he wasn't part of the deal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,228 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    They might be Sony movies but all 3 Tom Holland films are set in the MCU Iron Man universe Tom Holland Spider-man is an MCU character licensed by Sony would probably state it best but he is not in his own universe like Andrew Garfield was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    Don’t bet your life on this information but, as far as I know, all Spiderman related material past present and future is owned by Sony in terms of movie rights. The proof of this would be that Miles is already the star of a Sony movie series “Spiderverse”.

    If i was Sony, I’d tell Disney that they can use Tom Hollands Spiderman in limited fashion in crossover movies but that they are getting Garfield back to do at least one more solo movie with Venom.

    Sony’s ultimate trick could be to kill off Garfield in that Venom movie while introducing live action Miles Morales so that he can have his own trilogy. Garfield is of an age that he would be a good mentor for a 14 year old Miles.

    Basically I see no reason why Sony would give Disney the first crack at doing a live action Miles Morales first. Miles could be a fresh take on Spiderman compared to an overused Peter Parker. Sony would be mad to give that up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    Don’t read below if you’ve not seen No Way Home.

    No Way Home is all about the multiverse. Venom took a trip to the MCU universe in his movie post credit scene and he had a big interest in Tom Hollands Spiderman. He also showed up in the No Way Home post credit scene and was fascinated by the idea of superheroes. The big thing about that scene is that he left some venom goo behind.

    Tom Hollands Spiderman has now lost all his connections with the MCU. Aunt May is dead, his friends don’t know him, and none of the Avengers etc. even know his real name, they just know him as Spiderman. He now has no ties to future movies in the MCU going forward. He is free to retire, or even jump universes to hook up with Venom.

    Sony can now do a Tom Holland movie if they want. They can write a legitimate movie with no references to the MCU because of the way the last film ended.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,228 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Seeing it later



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,108 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige confirms Spider-Man 4 is in active development, but the Tom Holland sequel is still in the early stages.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,108 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Re No Way Home

    Tom Holland's Spider-Man is still firmly in the MCU and they thought the way they brought in Venom and removed again was fantastic, I don't like those movies and they don't want that version of Venom in the MCU but now they can have their own version. Sony have also set up a multiverse so of they want to do a new Spider-Man in the Hardy-Verse they can recast or bring back Garfield for another crack. I think Holland's Parker is nicely set up, he's a back to basics Spider-Man with no gadgets and anonymity. He'll definitely be back in future MCU films.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,108 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Spoiler linked to a cameo in Spider-Man No Way Home and Disney+ shows.


    It's being reported that Matt Murdock will be a major character going forward across all MCU shows on Disney+ starting in She-Hulk which would link with the comic connections of the two characters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,108 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Reports that the Ms.Marvel series has going back for extensive reshoots after it finished filming before Christmas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,108 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    The Echo series is bringing in writers from Netflix's Daredevil and The Punisher, Ken Kristensen and Dara Resnik 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,108 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Bill Murray has joined the cast of Ant-Man 3.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    I think it is safe to say that that story is not 100% reliable

    some people thought Maslany would be in make up for She-Hulk even though she is only 5 foot 4 or there abouts - so that makes no sense

    obviously she is going to be CGI enhanced like Ruffalo

    the whole “100% CGI” in that article is just typical shoddy internet reporting

    this is I think the website that has movie endings explained articles and run stories claiming Pedro Pascal is the mayor’s receptionist in Boba Fett because they both have moustaches



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    He blabbed about when. Doing press for Ghostbuster I think



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,420 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Had read somewhere that people weren't too impressed with the actress, but that was likely just clickbait.

    But at the same time it makes me wonder why they don't wait until they've filmed a bit before announcing the casting for projects, especially for shows like this where they don't have the luxury of using a pilot to judge performances and with an unknown actress. Not like Tatiana Maslany who I think has more than proven herself in Orphan Black.

    But like I said that was just 1 or 2 articles. Reshoots could also be in reaction pushback against the reveal that she won't have her comic powers.



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