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People who reluctantly got vaccinated, how has your life been affected?

  • 03-12-2021 8:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭


    Why did you decide to get vaccinated and what happened afterwards? Did your life drastically change or did you just forget about it and move on pretty quickly?

    I have 2 or 3 colleagues who were somewhat anti vax, not over the top protesters or anything. Just the usual unsafe, untested, no data etc etc. But after getting vaxed over the summer they just don't seem to go on as much.

    I always wondered why.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    Why don't you ask them?



  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭JizzBeans


    I tried, told me to F off. Narky older teachers



  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Idiot boy


    I gave in to the pressure to get vaccination...sooo not worth it now...have never used nor show the vax passport...wont be getting another....fool me once.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭JizzBeans


    How did it effect your life in the days/weeks after getting it? Genuinely curious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭Ish66


    They have moved on to the ''My Child is not wearing a mask to school Brigade'' and frantically searching online for something new to be ''Outraged'' about next week. ****....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,283 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I just wanted to go on holiday so got it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    I got the jab as I wanted to go on holidays. I had nasty heart palpitations after getting the second jab. I've only used the cert once, and that was going into France, wasnt checked on the return. My local doesnt check it either. I've a few buddies from the gym who didn't get the jab and a few have got covid but they were either asymptomatic (one guy was asked to do a PCR test and only found out then he had it) or had very very mild symptoms. After the heart palpitations I'm not sure I'd get it in hindsight, could have skipped the holiday.



  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Idiot boy


    Heart palpitations in the week after...but nothing since then..waste of time in my opinion..look at todays farce



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I had the overwhelming urge to download Microsoft Windows into my head.


    Serious answer? Though I'm not a reluctant vaccine type so maybe I'm not the target audience. I'm fully behind vaccines. They've changed the world immeasurably for the better. I thought about it and did a lot of reading(not from loonies on the Facetube) and decided on the J&J viralvector vaccine over the mRNA type. The Oxford AZ also viralvector would have been the second choice.

    Since then I've only been asked for the cert once and even then because I was holding up proceedings digging through my phone they just moved me on. Had no reaction to the vaccine itself. I've since been exposed to three positive clusters in the last six weeks and came back negative each time(I did catch covid in Jan this year. lost smell and taste that was it, so maybe that and the vaccine on top added to resistance).

    Other than that I pretty much forgot about it tbh. The vast majority of people I would deal with would be vaccinated so I suppose they expect the same of others and me, so was never asked really.

    I am happy to get a booster in time, but only if it's not of the mRNA kind. I'm willing to pay for that choice. That's about it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    Could you share your reasons re the MRnA vaccines? I took Pzfier. Should I be worried?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,921 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    Wife had the same. Ended up being referred to A&E by her gp.

    She's getting no more



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Not at all Ellie. You'll almost certainly be grand. Just a personal idiosyncrasy on my part.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭Risteard81


    Uninjected. I wouldn't change that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭NSAman


    After having a bad flu in January 2020 which was suspected covid, I was left with a wicked cough for months and months afterwards.

    could be co-incidence but that cough only left after I got the J&J vaccine. Apart from an afternoon of feeling like crap I was fine. Got the booster recently and nothing at all happened.

    coming home for the first time in two years shortly and can’t wait. PCR test to be booked for next week.

    was reluctant at first but it did have benefits. Booster was got so I could go home.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Most definitely coincidence, a vaccine doesn't "cure" anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,247 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Quite interested in hearing folks saying they've only used their vaccine passport one or two times. Do you not go out very much?

    I've used mine hundreds of times at this stage. Any time I want to go into a restaurant or a bar in Dublin I've been asked - on a few occasions I've been asked to produce ID to confirm the names match up too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭BattleCorp1


    I'm always amused at people getting the vaccination solely to go on hols, go to the pub etc. as if that's the sole purpose of the vaccine. The purpose of the vaccination isn't to let you go on hols, to the pub or the cinema, it's to help your body fight the virus and increase the odds of you having mild symptoms and not ending up severely ill or in a box.

    Will there be any long-term effects from taking the vaccine/boosters, I can't be sure to be honest. But I've witnessed the devastating effects of COVID on some of my friends and acquaintances (one dead/several with long COVID) and that is making me think that the vaccine is the best choice to make at present.

    By the way, even though I'm in favour of the vaccine, I'm not a fan of the vaccine pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    Yes like you Oisin i've been asked every time i go somewhere in Dublin, the Id thing has only happened recently. As for the vaccine i got it so i could have a pint in a near empty pub ! I've had the 2 jabs but won't get anymore it's time we moved on and started getting back to normal. We are being held ransom to the fact there is only 140 icu beds, this is the big problem that needs to be resolved instead of blowing millions and millions on booster jabs, you should also see the amount the tax payer is paying in late payment interest alone it would seriously shock people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,247 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I managed to get my first jab quite a bit earlier than a lot of folks, there was a lovely time there alright where I could have a pint and read a paper in almost solitude alright while everyone else sat outside :D

    Have a few medical issues myself which would not gel well with Covid, so got my booster there last week. Definitely agree that we need to move on at this stage, If we can't get back to normal with this number of people vaccinated then we never will.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    wanted to not need PCR for holidays and go the pub at home etc, had no desire to get it.

    got it, got covid about 2 days later, (which turned out to be a joke), got the second jab few months later.

    i didnt want to get vaccinated as i didnt think i needed it, turned out i was right. doesnt matter now though i suppose.

    will not be getting a booster, especially as i had the cold already.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭Shilock


    I got vaccinated and when the passports came out I never darkened the doors of any establishment such as bars, restaurants,cafes or similar places.

    I went to the cinema until they started implementation of passports there too. I won't enter those places until they scrap those passports, nor will I stay in a hotel because of the medical apartheid.

    My partner isn't vaccinated and I've no issue with that, I love her and the media, political classes,senior civil servants and the other ilk ain't taking that from us...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    And the reluctant ones that get vaccinated are usually the ones with heart palpitations and other symptoms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Agreed. That said, maybe it got the immune system beefed up, which then said "oh yeah theres a cough here, lets fix that little bit of virus". No science behind that whatsoever, but you never know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭rtron


    Leo has said there may be more restrictions recommend by Nphet. After getting two jabs and a booster program under way I find that insulting to the people who have in the majority played ball. And I know there is a new variant but the data shows the best protection is with going with the booster. If that's the case why more restriction.

    How has my life been affected? The same as every one else, but feel like there is something else going on now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭Shauna677


    You don't travel then? I recently flew back from Germany, had to show the pass twice at the airport before I was even allowed to board.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    140 ICU beds nationwide is the problem,how many boosters will we need to keep hiding this fact, maybe a few more vaccines.

    Sure tax payers are only paying millions a month for them but mehole and leo are still in power. It's a farce i'd rather be in an icu bed than live much longer like this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    I recognise so many names here I thought I was on another forum for a second



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Just wait til they start deactivating peoples covid certs if they don't have the latest booster. That's when the real fun will begin...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    I thought hotels allowed unvaccinated stay and use bar etc ?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭BattleCorp1


    My Mrs. went to Amsterdam about 6 weeks ago with two friends, one of whom was unvaccinated. Her unvaccinated friend was required to get a test before going and one before coming home. Nobody asked her at any stage of both journeys for her test results. We (and Holland) were very lax at following up on the regulations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,884 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    There's over 300 ICU beds they're not all for COVID, we have about 150 capacity for COVID ICU in the system and 200 with surge capacity (other services closing), more with private hospitals but surge and private capacity also means restrictions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    you think that's enough during a global pandemic ? (even if your figures are clear and correct)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Serious question for vaccine hesitant people. It there is a very small risk from the vaccine and a small risk for most people from the actual corona virus, what makes you opt for the covid risk over the vaccine risk.

    I accept both are small, but the risk from the actual virus is significantley higher than the risk from the vaccine, that has been shown by the sheer numbers vaccinated now globally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    We've been through 4 'waves' now and only 623,000 confirmed cases which makes up 12% of the entire population (and this is likely less as 623k figure includes people getting it multiple times). This rhetoric of you either getting the vaccine, getting covid and recovering or getting covid and dying is a load of b*llox.

    I don't plan on getting either covid nor the vaccine. I'm young with no underlying conditions that I know of, so my chances of dying from the virus are low and will get good immunity from the virus itself (if I ever get it of course).

    The amount of people who have had to take sick days off work after the vaccine (legitimate or not) I could not believe. Not to mention the fact that younger people tend to get more adverse reactions. This coupled with the fact that the program isn't even a year old meaning we have no idea what toll (if any) the vaccine will have on us in the medium term even.

    I feel I've made the right choice so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Likely to be a lot of sitting outside or socialising in private locations. Know a few social types who have not been inside and some places have good outdoor setups. Then there is the 35% whose certs have not been checked.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,480 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    First does of AZ gave me what felt like full blown flu for a week. Felt absolutely horrible, missed a week of work. Second dose I felt the same for 3 days, ruined my weekend. Continuing headaches and general fatigue. Won't be getting any more shots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    First dose AZ gave me what I can describe as the worst hang over ever

    Second dose gave me nothing

    Third dose gave me 2 days of illness but it was the 2 days before I actually go ill that pissed me off the most

    My oncologists believe I had the virus too, so the person above claiming that only 12% have had the virus is wrong and probably far higher

    Wont be getting another one until they vaccines improve. The 3 hour queue been one of the reasons. Another been that COVID wasnt much or any worse



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    2 dodgy reactions out of three isn't good and i totally believe way more than 12% have had it aswell, i've had two jabs of pfizer and one was the worst 24 hours i can remember, the second no reaction. Unless people start dropping like flies because of some new strain i don't think i'll get a booster again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 995 ✭✭✭iColdFusion


    My mind boggles at the people who say they'd prefer to get covid than the vaccine, as if somehow the two are the same thing because they personally might feel the same in both instances completely ignoring all the people close to them they will potentially infect if they get covid 🙄



  • Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭BattleCorp1


    Given that many people can be asymptomatic and therefore may not be tested, you can take that stat of 623,000 cases with a pinch of salt.

    That 'rhetoric' or load of 'b*llox' as you say is pretty much the situation. You might be lucky and not get COVID. You might be lucky and get COVID and it turns out that you are asymptomatic or you have very mild symptoms. Or you might be one of the rare ones who get very sick and potentially gets long COVID or dies. Or you could get vaccinated and still get very sick and suffer long COVID or death or suffer none of those effects. There's no way of knowing for sure until you get the virus.

    Personally I prefer my chances with the vaccine rather than with the virus.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    People who say that getting covid is inevitable is simply not true. And if you are part of the asymptomatic cohort then what difference does it make really.

    The government had the "vaccine is a key to freedom" stick to beat us with last summer. They don't have the same luxury with the boosters. I reckon the government will have a huge booster hesitancy problem on their hands (or I'm sure they'll be branded "anti-boosters" inevitably or some other derogatory name)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    So from your own figures 12 % of the population has had COVID and it is having a serious affect on our health system with patients in ICU, long term illness and death.

    On the other hand over 90% vaccinated with zero impact on our health system.

    I certainly know where the greater health risk lies. What the govt say is immaterial to my personal health decisions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,480 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    I've worked in covid wards since the start of this. We were working without PPE. Discouraged from wearing masks as it scared the patients. I have contact with 20-30 patients a day and back at the start of 2021 a lot more. There's absolutely no way I avoided getting it at this stage so yeah, I probably had it, and I was probably asymptomatic.


    So tbh. I couldn't give less of a fûck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    tough gig wolf you must be sick of it more than most at this stage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,884 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    What is the correct amount and how does Ireland go about hiring doctors and nurses to run the beds during a global pandemic when all other countries are doing the same?

    How much extra capacity should we pay for in the health system in case there is a global pandemic again in the future? How much extra taxes are you willing to pay for that?

    Ireland had a low ICU capacity pre-pandemic and it should have been increased (and was happening slowly) but it's virtually impossible to recruit people when every country needs extra capacity, which means shutting down other parts of the health system to cope (which then leads to restrictions and lockdowns).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,480 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Utterly.

    And to be told sit here, do this, don't do that, wear your mask, don't go over there when I want to have a pint after 7x12 hour shifts in a row up to my balls in covid is beyond vile. Not to mention the 500 "bonus" being ripped away from us a few months ago. We don't get anything beyond our paltry wages and a few claps. They can stick their promises of getting "back to normal" and their boosters up their collective holes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Well you obviously don't think COVID is a big deal or something the government should concern itself with.

    So in that case, why should working in a COVID ward be a big issue.

    The disease is either dangerous or not. Do you think the virus is dangerous?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,480 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Of course it's dangerous. I've seen it do some horrendous things to people. I'm not like 99% of those people though, compromised health, massively overweight etc. I have both shots. Do the vaccines work or don't they? If they work - I'm protected. What's your argument?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,104 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    You're not though.

    If we are being completely honest. You live in Ireland you are quite injected and have been since you were born.

    Unless of course you were protesting in the baby ward and in primary school. But sure look. Accuracy and all tha wha.



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