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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,312 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    who does she appeal to? apart from her father of course.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,019 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    who does she appeal to? apart from her father of course.

    That's all they need. If she's good enough for their golden god, she's good enough for them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭livia21


    Don't think Ivanka would go down well with Trump's neo-nazi base because of her conversion to Judaism.Some of his base called his impeachment "Jew" coup" and "Trump woos Jews,Jews impeach Trump"



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,236 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Bernie seem to care about the health, higher education, and fair distribution of compensation for the workforce, and was opposed to the increasing concentration of wealth by a tiny number of obscenely rich people (less than 3 percent controlled 80 percent of the wealth in America). If elected in 2016 he would not have achieved his campaign promises, having been blocked by those very powerful rich people who controlled the corporate lobbyists and vast PAC monies. A lame duck one term president.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    My bet is that it'll be Kristi Noem from South Dakota.

    Enough of a MAGA Profile to have name recognition and so on but not enough to be any threat to Trump politically or media-wise.

    MTG is too "noisy" in the media for Trump to want to have her alongside , she'd draw attention away from him and he couldn't be having that..

    Noem is the ideal "Political Arm Candy" that Trump would crave.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,089 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Who did Pence appeal to?


    Not sure that Trump would really care too much about appealing to some other part of the voting population other than himself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,312 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    jeez you can't even make a joke these days without the third degree.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,604 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Because she's a Jewess? I don't know how trumpists can square that particular circle just yet.

    But other than that? She is the ideal nativist Aryan superwoman 😉



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,604 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Because she's a Jewess? I don't know how trumpists can square that particular side of their nativist Aryan nationalism just yet.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,089 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    They would just stick their fingers in their ears and pretend not to notice.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,219 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    She has the trump 'bloodline', those types love that kind of rhetoric



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,547 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    The evangelicals (christian fundamentalists). He also gave the appearance to the political world (read the GOP) that Trump wasn't going to burn the place down. But he was quite enough that he would never take the spotlight away from Trump, he was a safe pair of hands that was more than capable of going out to bat on any issue.

    One thing we know is that Trump doesn't share the spotlight with anyone. It is all about him. Look at his reaction to Fauci, who is only doing his job but went from doing that job to public enemy number 1. Same as has now happened to Pence.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Two News items today that just encapsulate the story on the Trump administration perfectly.

    In a move that totally says " Nothing at all illegal went on", Jeffrey Clarke has told the Jan 6th committee that he will invoke the 5th Amendment during testimony - You know the one use so you don't criminally implicate yourself..that one.

    And in a truly incredible piece of cripplingly obsequious subservient capitulation , Mark Meadows now says that his own book is indeed "Fake News" as it related to Trumps positive Covid test. Even the NewsMax host was struggling to buy it..



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    You'd be tempted to laugh at how utterly stupid these people are, but it's important to never normalise this. The day that it becomes normal is the day that America really is finished.



  • Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭The Quintessence Model


    Would've been better than Trump. I'd rather a lane duck Bernie then a lame duck Trump.



  • Registered Users Posts: 391 ✭✭Stanley 1


    When the time is right and she can get a decent settlement out of Jared, she will dump him and his ancient Religion, take to the airwaves like Paula White and get the cashflow moving rapidly towards her and her Daddy, she will banish her asshole brothers to Doonbeg.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,019 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,792 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Not a hope. General elections are won by winning over "moderates" in swing states. The only people who can stomach MTG are base-Republicans. She'd be great for Republican primaries or deep red states, but absolutely toxic beyond that.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Have you not gone back through my postings and read the supporting links I provided? I don't think anyone here should be required to post the same thing over and over and over again, whenever asked, when it was already answered and addressed.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,559 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Trump is rabidly pro-Jewish, pro-Zionist and pro-Israel. He achieved a lot for Israel and Zionists. He recognised Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moved the US embassy to that city. He later forced Serbia to move their embassy too as a condition of a US brokered deal between Serbia and Kosovo. He recognised Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights. He withdrew the US from the UN human rights council due to its "chronic bias against Israel". He used US power to broker agreements between Israel and the UAE, Bahrain, Sudan and others without any Israeli concessions to the Palestinians. His team put together an Israeli-Palestinian peace proposal that was so hopelessly one sided in favour of Israel that it was immediately rejected by the Palestinians.

    If Trump has supporters in 2024, they will be entirely comfortable with his pro-Zionist stances and his Jewish relatives. Try to contain your hatred of the man into something that can at least loosely based on reality.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Is that still true though? I'd say the last election showed that it's more about riling up the base to vote than convincing the moderates.

    I find it hard to believe that there were millions of moderates who voted from Trump in 2020 that didn't in 2016.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,312 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    His team put together an Israeli-Palestinian peace proposal that was so hopelessly one sided in favour of Israel that it was immediately rejected by the Palestinians.

    Do you consider that a positive?



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    DONALD TRUMP FUTURE PREDICTIONS:

    1. The former Celebrity Apprentice President Donald Trump will run 2024. Pence will not be his running mate. Because Pence did his constitutional duty as VP at the EC meeting of Congress January 6 and did not support Trump's BIG LIE. And did not support Trump's sloppy attempt at proxy insurrection by Trump's adoring fans.
    2. If Trump wins 2024, all agreements with NATO, EU, WHO, Iran, Paris Accord, etc., are at risk. Past overseas agreements, and those signed by Trump will not be worth the paper they are printed upon. Consequently, today's allies will join with each other after 2024, and increase their military forces to reduce the likelihood of WW3, because they cannot count on the word of the USA to come to their aid. The Peoples Republic of China will continue to expand its military, especially at sea, including several aircraft carrier task forces to project their military power world wide, challenging the USA military accordingly.
    3. Trump will forsake climate change warnings, and increase coal, oil, and gas production, including pipeline completion from Alaska/Canada. EPA will be either eliminated or made a toothless paper tiger. Trump will further his Trump corporate profit golf resort and building interests in Arab oil and gas producing nations, especially Saudi Arabia (with more golden sword dancing and medals from the King).
    4. If the US Supreme Court has any more vacancies, Trump will continue to stack/stuff the court with Republican biased favorites, which may be cause for the Court to be viewed by independents, Dems, and non-Fox & Friends news media as more politics driven than constitution driven. And because there will be no expansion of the number of Court seats during Biden, continued Trump stuffing beyond the 3 he has appointed will make the Court Republican biased for decades to come, as will his appointments to the lower federal judiciary across the country. Roe vs Wade will either be reversed by the Court, or it will be so marginalized as to be useless towards protecting women's rights to choice. Rich families will send their daughters to southern France on vacation as before, while poor women will suffer in back alleys along with increased mortality.
    5. Trump will attempt to get presidential term limits removed, so that he can be equivalent to his friends Putin and Kim Jong-un, as well as his competitor Xi Jinping. Trump family members like Don Jr, Eric's wife Lara Trump, and Ivanka Trump will run for higher political offices, will win most, and establish the Trump dynasty unlike any attempts by families of past politicians. One may be elected president after Donald Trump gets too old to rule or dies, "witch" ever comes first (Daddy and Baby Bush came from the same family). My guess is either Ivanka or Don Jr.
    6. The Republican party will continue to pass voter restriction laws where they currently have control of their state legislatures, especially against mail in ballots, increasing a the likelihood of a Trump 2024 win. The Republican party will win control of the US Senate and US House during the 2022 mid-term elections. Which is not historically unusual for opposition party gains against a sitting president (Biden) during mid-terms.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Because Trump did it, yes.

    If any other President does it? They're covering up for murdering bastards.





  • The foundation of Trump's base, the evangelicals, are the most rabidly pro-Israel people on the planet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,559 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    I didn't cite any of these things as being "positives". Just examples Trumps rabid support of Israel and Zionism.

    Its like Pavlov's dogs I swear.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,604 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Being pro-israel and supporting Zionism plays well across both the main US parties. There is a weird evangelical notion that Israel is the protector of the holy land and the Bible belt and the broader American public not only support that protection, but bankroll it too.

    There is a serious disconnect however between that support and the broadly nativist, xenophobic and often anti-Semitic stances and opinions fostered by the "base". Outside of the "Coastal elites" and in particular the NE and California there is a notable and broad position that Hollywood and the Jews and even Jewish Hollywood are at the core of some form of NWO and much like other forms of racism in the US, it's never far from the heart of any political matter.

    As for Trump being a supporter of Judaism and Zionism? Bollox, Trump is a supporter of 1 thing, Trump! The embassy move and the Bahrain deal served one purpose, himself, it was an attempt to portray him as a deal maker and a statesman.

    Trump decried a vote for the Democrats as being Anti-Semitic, despite there being a strong Jewish core and support at the heart of Democrat party.


    Further Trump was openly Anti-Semitic at a fundraiser in 2017.


    An Israeli opinion piece on Trump claiming a 2nd Trump term would be a disaster for American Jews.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,559 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    "Being pro-israel and supporting Zionism plays well across both the main US parties."

    Yes, so Trump being rabidly pro-Israel/Zionist/Jewish and having Jewish relatives will not be a problem for him.



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