BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

There's logic to this madness. Well, the destination naming rather, as it's simply that these schedules show the name of the last stop as per proper continental practice and not loosely related albeit descriptive area names. The problem, one could therefore argue, is that terminus bus stops should be better named.

As for the variations on the 33A, it's a recurring theme that these print-outs can't get variations right at all. The 33A and 33B are missing them, and then the lone 220A trip carries a variation marker across half of Dublin. The 126 timetables outbound are no more helpful, showing Rathangan as the destination... that's served by only one Mon-Sat trip, the rest only as far as Kildare or Newbridge, not that you'd find out...

Expect complete calamity tomorrow. Lots of canteen talk in Earls Place.

New fares

New routes

People getting the bus from O'Connell street are now getting hoofed out at Townsend If they want to go to Ringsend, Irishtown and Sandymount and waiting for a second bus as the 1 is now cut in half.

People who want to travel to Rathmines, Terinure, Templeogue and so, from any of the big IT centers in Ringsend, now have to get 2 buses. In Winter.

And the small issue of 20 plus drivers jumping off the 27/77a to work the new C spine. There is going to be murder I rekon on that route alone. As it is one of the city's busiest routes.

And alot of spare drivers also getting marked in on the C making them no longer available to cover the vacant dutys and covid sick.

Driver shortage is getting serious. Nation wide. Euro wide..

The fuse is lite.

"People getting the bus from O'Connell street are now getting hoofed out at Townsend If they want to go to Ringsend, Irishtown and Sandymount and waiting for a second bus as the 1 is now cut in half.

People who want to travel to Rathmines, Terinure, Templeogue and so, from any of the big IT centers in Ringsend, now have to get 2 buses. In Winter."

But now people who want to get to Palmerstown, Lucan and beyond have a direct route to those IT centres? I don't really get this idea that existing routings should be sacrosanct and completely off the table (leaving aside the fact that the 15A/B have only been going to Ringsend for the last few years so it's hardly a route that's been established for decades). I don't know if Bus Connects will be a success but you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

I’ve been looking for this as well, I remember seeing it before but I can’t find it now.

It worked fine for me. Took the C3 from Wellington Quay to Heuston for €1.60 (driver) and then took C1 from Heuston to Ringsend using validator and was only charged €0.70.

very true .. My mistake about Templeogue. And I agree with you.

Definitely breaking a few eggs though.

Im sure a few weeks down the line it will be normalized . But as I said. Tomorrow and the weeks ahead is going to be crazy. And alot of noses will be put out of joint.

People in Sandymount . They put the stoppers on alot of plans already regarding cycle lanes and seem to have a bit of influence .

They will be reliant now on a more frequent C1 and C2 . They dont have as much as a bus shelter at townsends street , along with Garda constantly slowing things up with parking at that stop.

Shall be an interesting week for sure.

That's a combined C3/C5 map. The route on the left is the C3 via Chapelizod bypass, the one on the right is the night-time C5 via Chapelizod Village.

I would have instead diverted C3 & C4 via N4, then diverted 52 via Lucan Village instead of the N4 road and made C5 from Adamstown Station via Dodsborough and Lucan Village. 52 and C5 would come to Lucan less crowded as currently C3 & C4 are. Lots of things sadly could have been done better re new routes. I think, it was a mistake splitting 239 too. Some other diversions could have been done, which I don't want to repeat as I've mentioned them earlier a few pages back.

Did anyone travel today and their previous €2.25 “middle fare” were able to just tag on the validator and get the new €2.30 fare?

That will make a bit of a difference from my stop as heretofore we had to queue up to the driver and ask for our fare.

One of the multiple comments underneath that main tweet from the Dublin Commuter Coalition is now saying there that the rollout of the Northern Orbitals may be delayed until Autumn 2022.

As per the tweet here.

Can someone here explain why is that phase for the Northern Orbitals is being subject to 7/8 month delay as I cannot really understand it.

The comment on Twitter implies to me at this point that we have 2 scenarios at play.

Scenario 1

The NTA are now going to say that both the Northern & Southern Orbitals could be rolled out together from September 2022.

Or

Scenario 2

Maybe the NTA have done a mad switch around at the last minute to rollout the Southern Orbitals first in January/February & then the Northern Orbitals will be out in September.

Has that news been made official from the NTA?

It doesn't say "is now delayed", it says "it may be delayed" - huge difference. One hour later a new comment was added "We’re awaiting updated information on the plan". Currently it's too soon to speculate the information.

Agree that frequency should be better for C spine, and it would make connections more attractive. People in Adamstown/Lucan say the same regarding C1 & C2.

Are the C1 and C2 pretty much not the exact same as the 25a/b? Why the capacity worries all of a sudden?

Thanks for that, but sadly it’s of little use to people standing at the bus stop wondering what it is.