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Climate change protest

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Even a reasonably sized 3 bed house will see you looking at €300k to build now



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That happens, though in areas like mine it's a little bit live horse and you'll eat. Most houses, even ruins, have been done up for the tourist rental market. I don't disagree with people doing that either tbh. But, the situation as it is leaves a lot of people with only two options, build your own house or move away. There isn't a long term rental market here really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭Grueller


    I was guilty of the celtic tiger two storey as well. Have it paid for though this 3 years so it's not hurting me financially.

    The other side of that is my jeep is 16 and the minister of the interiors car is 14. I work short hours off farm with kids in primary and secondary school. Wife works in the local town so she does the secondary school drop and I do primary drop and collections. Secondary school students do after school study which finishes 15 minutes after the wife's work so collection is sorted there.

    We have no mortgage, no childcare and no car loans. I still have no money though 😡😤🙄 however I manage that!!!!! If I could shed the farm debt on land I bought in 2011 and the dairy start up I would be fine.



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    the minister of the interiors

    If I was a braver man I would definitely use that, hilarious stuff 😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,233 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Must remember that one


    On houses it's was worse over the last few years when building prices were cheap. There has been a bit of a planning application blitz locally over the last 12 months. I saw some of the plans and I think some of the houses will never get build 3k+ sq feet. That with present build regs will put some of them houses toward above 400k in present building costs and that is a builders finish.

    Build what was a decent sized house in the early 90. 1800sqft. it cost 48k pounds with everything in it inc fitted kitchen, oil range and stove in the sitting room when most lads were still putting open fires. It was insulated to a very high standard at the time. Insulation standards did not reach what I put in until the end of the noughties

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    At the same time 48k was a big ball of money back in the early nineties ,did this include buying site .In today terms it would probably equal to 320k euro going by 48k pounds would have bought 16 ac of good gtound back then which now could make 320k locally



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,233 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,611 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Affectationly known as the kitchen commander here



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'll have to inject that title at the right moment.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers


    But I'm on a family farm watching the tide get closer and closer, the costal erosion has eaten into the neighbors land quite badly this last few years.

    I got the impression your activities were not going to do much to slow it?


    One of the things that come to mind is that you will still have your farms, at one time there were farms here without tractors in fact, so at least you will have a nice crop of mangos, bananas or walrus steaks dependent on the gulf stream of course.

    A lot of people on the coast will have to watch their land disappear into the sea. Some people on the planet will lose there lives to climate change.

    The government here seems very willing to go for a "green" agenda. I can quite easily see problems. Coal is taxed to high heaven and electricity is a ridiculous price. I recently bought a car, not because I wanted to, but because public transport here is far worse than it was fifty years back. So the simple solution of dissuade by taxation is very enthusiastically adopted but if you want to warm the house or travel, it was easier and cheaper half a century back.

    I didn't buy an electric car incidentally, the generator has been fired up about fifteen times this year. The ESB used to send postcards for the planned outages, but then there were faults and I guess even the planned outages would cost a wind generators worth of postage in a year :-)

    Global warming is a very serious issue, it will take an impressive class of politician to be able to produce a worthwhile effect.

    I'm building a raft.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,974 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    F62EFD33-6C17-4DF2-8ED1-83A5CEC29773.jpeg

    From the Facebook page. If that’s the hard shoulder they are blocking they need to cop on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,499 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I've been saying that for years about beef farmers and have only got abuse for saying it (mainly from you)

    Authors of their own demise, you know



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,233 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The point that comes accross is that the truckers are not sure who they should protest against. High fuel prices are here to stay and the knock on effects. Government taxes on fuel are no worse than anywhere else in EU.

    I was reading the feedback from the IFA's protest. They want the government ''to engage with them''. However they are not publicising what they are protesting against. On Sunday an artist trying to sell a few paintings for a 100-300 euro commented on hat he did not either but there was tractors there that were worth 500k, maybe an exaggeration. However you get the impression the IFA want to negotiate behind closed doors for a limited cohort if larger farmers.

    With this trucker group you get a he impression they just do not understand that only as services are reduced will prices increase. However I expect that there is a cohort of truckers that have over borrowed.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Get the timing wrong and it’ll be the last thing you inject for a while.......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    The price of food has to go up , by how much is the question . Why aren’t those looking for climate change mitigation measures being asked how much extra they are prepared to pay for a basket of Agri produce ? They won’t be asked on RTE that is for sure. They have all the answers as to how much the herd should be reduced by but never mention the inevitable additional cost to the consumer .

    Interestingly it is is being talked about in other countries . I see a former head of Danone predicting that both energy and food costs will rise significantly .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭green daries


    No it won't be talked about they won't even answer on a private forum.

    The biggest problem with the current rise in consumer prices is the fact that there's no reduction in agricultural output at all yet it's all energy related (gas mostly)



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