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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭denismc


    Trying to remember the last time I saw anyone towing a caravan, they seem to be pretty rare these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,832 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    not sure, havent been in a model Y, i would imagine so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,832 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    never looked into that, i know its an option from new, but retro fit may be tricky, that said your towing needs sounds pretty light.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    I saw a few in London but didn't look close enough, mistakenly thought they were X first



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    I have a utility trailer which very occasionally I use to tow circa 800 kg so towing is something I like to allow for



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    They have a bit of a bad rep in Ireland anyway, and I think a lot of the caravanning tourist traffic from the UK has dried up because of Brexit/Covid

    I suspect that cheap holiday homes and Airbnb has had a major impact as well, why bring a caravan to a campsite in the middle of nowhere when you can rent a nice cottage or a mobile home?

    Plus with fuel prices as they are, can't imagine caravanning is exactly a budget holiday these days

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,832 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    from google

    The e-tron's ground clearance is 172mm but it has adaptive air suspension as standard, allowing the ride height to be increased by 76mm for off-road excursions, or dropped by 20mm at motorway speeds.

    Model Y 17cm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭zg3409


    They make an offroadish buggy based on electric golf cart. It has a towbar for trailer and lugging extra cargo. It has a cargo box on rear. It uses fairly standard lead based batteries. Very rugged intended for all day use at coastal golf courses.


    No idea of prices. Irish dealers with decades of sales and support, 3 pin charging.


    I drove one for years up hills and towed luggage. Worked great. I assume it's 2 wheel drive but unsure. Low voltage system maybe 96 volt. Terribly simple. Similar to electric forklifts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,657 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Jez, the price 2nd hand cars are going for at present are shocking.



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,037 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    thanks for that, Off road ish aint gonna cut it unfortunately! They even point towards the gator for the more UTV aspect.


    Waiting on the Polaris Ranger EV announcement in dec, plenty of teasers/marketing on the development on youtube, and we have a 6yr old gator to trade so might lessen the cost to change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    It's certainly a seller's market, although I think a fair number of the garages are chancing their arms


    About a year ago I'm pretty sure there were a good number of 2018 Leaf40s going for under €20k, now I've only found 2

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,657 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Yeah probably are chancing their arms, some are now looking for 23k+ for 2018 Leafs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭cannco253


    My neighbour is thinking about putting a deposit down for one of these. I haven't heard much about them (previously eBussy) but he's saying its more of a quadricycle than a car, so very light and decent range. Supposed to be released in 2022. Cheapest standard model on the configurator is EUR18,700.

    BATTERY:

    Up to 24 removable lithium battery packs of 1.25 kWh - a total of up to 30 kWh. Basic equipment consists of eight battery packs with a total of 10 kWh - optionally expandable. Range per kWh approx. 20 km.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,123 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    That looks interesting.

    Website is very confusing and I cannot see an option to see the prices with the larger battery pack



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,180 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    So this evening I took part in a Department of Transport focus group on the subject of EV's. The primary focus was on how to get more people driving EV's.

    Suffice to say the overarching feeling among the participants was that the network is simply nowhere near where it needs to be to encourage the next generation of EV drivers to switch to EV's.....

    eCars didn't come out of it looking too well.....

    Post edited by AndyBoBandy on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    What about DoT? They are those in a very bad light. What were their policies to encourage the take up so far? I feel it is very late for such a focus group. At this stage they should ask the question "How are our policies working?". Anyway much has been discussed already but with the right policies it wouldn't matter if ecars are lousy or not. The thing is gov couldn't care less bar some press releases and the results are visible. Iceland has more DC chargers than us and probably Reykjavik will have a metro before Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 howyenow20


    What's with the chunky wheels and block shape of every new ecar? It looks so unappealing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Department of Transport, Transport Infrastructure Ireland, National Transport Authority, Department of Environment, Climate Action Plan, Climate Action Fund, state-owned ESB. Setting up OLEV.

    Option 1. Do very little and set up OZEV in 2030.

    Option 2. Mass. Is there anything to be said for saying another mass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    I think there's way too much emphasis on the charging network from non EV drivers. People are used to having to refuel their cars on the road all the time. Home charging removes that requirement for over 90% of trips for most people. And the supercharging network is coming along nicely for.longer trips 😉



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    It is for efficiency. There are ways of changing that. Tesla aero are removable covers for example.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    You mean every new car right? 😜


    Most popular selling cars for the past few years have been mid size SUVs, Nissan quashqai, Hyundai Tucson, Kia Sportage and VW Tiguan all top the lists of cars sold


    Since EVs are new to most brand, they're focusing on the most popular and profitable segments where they know they'll sell

    As for the chunky wheels, I guess that's just a way of upselling people to a more expensive car

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭zg3409


    As an EV driver I need to use the public charging network from time to time. West Dublin is a disaster with queues at all 50kW+ chargers on a Sunday morning. One charger had 4 cars, one charging. Now Blanchardstown was out if action for weeks due to upgrades, but even then all chargers near Dublin airport at full all day with new EV Taxis filling up. As an EV owner I advise others to not buy an EV until public charging improves and there is no sign of that happening as ratio of chargers to cars is getting worse. We need 3 times as many 50kW+ chargers now, far more for the needs of future years. NI is a total disaster with 50kW chargers broken for years, some no CCS. Having to queue for an unknown amount of time, while the car charging is unoccupied, takes the shine off your day and car type decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭cannco253


    So canopies for the units not for the users? It's a start I suppose, maybe eCar could consider it...in about 10 years time....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,552 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    Those look hilariously useless. They won’t even do anything for the units, never mind the users.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,264 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Having faffed about with a charger in the rain, even this small cover will help. We just need to make sure it never rains and is windy on the same day!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,657 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Anyone on here got 2 EV/PHEV in the household?

    Wondering how you handle charging?

    Do you have 2 chargers? Or do they share a charger?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,832 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Yep, 2 EV for a few years, have single charger and external 3pin socket. Thought was, the 3pin could be used if charger in use, turns out we’ve never once had a clash, just a quick chat as to what car needs charging is all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭zg3409


    You can load share 2 chargers, if you set timers right one car will get priority. Actual suitability depends on cars and miles covered per day. You won't get the grant for second charger so most granny charge second car will less needs. If you have night rate you need to set timers in car and granny charging only puts in about 2kW per hour, so you may get limited energy overnight.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,657 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Yeah thats what I was thinking. If you have 2 cars and you charge overnight to avail of the cheap rate, you can't charge both during the night.



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