Will there be another lockdown?

Time for the army then?

Not very concerned. I think masks will be around for a long time to come as they are in Asian cities already. I don't think a 'lockdown' as we do them will work with Delta anymore. As for vaccine passports I'm ok with them and I see other countries demanding them for travel. Social distancing is ok with me too, too much cramming people into tight places in the last 40 years anyhow. Rarely in history do emergencies last that long our own in WWII was 6 years.

There have been people like that all along. A police officer friend in the UK said they spent the first lockdown picking up drug addicts and dropping them home. You can never expect everyone to pull together in a time of need.

The UK talks about the Spirit of the Blitz. Its remembered as a time when everyone pulled together for the collective good. But in reality, there were dissenters and they overcame the adversity in spite of the people who pulled against the greater good.

For example they had blackout orders where everyone was expected to put out lights after dark so the enemy bombers couldn't find the cities. And most people did the right thing and went without light to keep everyone safe, but there were people who objected to the restrictions on their freedom. All the same arguments were used including, what if they never let us use lights after dark again, why should I do it when I'm unlikely to be bombed, and the general idea of sticking it to the man.

We can't trust everyone to do the right thing no matter how obvious it seems. It's no reason not to do the right thing just because the least reliable people in the community will refuse.

Vaccine uptake has increased as the case load has. People are trying to avoid another lockdown. I don't know if we can avoid all restrictions but maybe an extended break for schools and a quietening down in January might get us out of the seasonal jump if the boosters start kicking in. Here's hoping for a decrease over the next week

I did, German family due to come to Ireland, Germany adds Ireland to red list, family cancel.

All I'm saying is Germany's "Red List" known as their High Risk only adds the requirement for the German version of a PLF. You still need to show proof of vaccination, high risk or not.

As I said, I arrived into Germany from a "High Risk" country already in the last few months so I know what the process is.

For a German to come to Ireland and return home they need proof of vaccination and PLF both ways, that's all. Anyway off topic for the thread but just showing how it's not that big a deal to be on the German high risk list for people travelling between the two countries.

It may not be enough to stop you travelling , but there is still a group of hyper vigilant people that will avoid Ireland when it’s on the red list. Red usually means bad.

I agree with most of that except I'd point out that the efficacy of the vaccination wasn't fully known until it was rolled out. They hoped it would stop transmission and prevent the spread and prevent serious illness. They couldn't possibly know until it was rolled out. It turns out that it reduces transmission very well for at least 3 months and prevents serious illness for longer.

I'd agree that most people will understand situation and behave well. Some won't.

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