Fuel Price Protest Dublin 24th November

Their livelihood is under threat. Good luck to them.

If they dont at least try, then they will lose an awful lot more.....

Carbon tax annual increase is to discourage people use fossil fuels and use other greener fuels. It's a political way to create a demand for electric, hybrid and hydrogen vehicles. Fuel price also increasing now to cover the loses due to last year's record low demand. Also, fuel is pricier due to fuel additives' cost. So it's a mix of political and economical reasons. Protests won't fix this as the reasons are more global rather than local.

Something like a euro on the price of every litre of diesel goes to the government on tax. The truckers are dead right to protest. There is no option to buy an electric truck as there is a car.

People were laughing at the Brits with empty shelves this year, we are close enough to the same craic here.

I know what you are saying but Government subsidies are provided all the time to sectors that are not financially viable because there is a belief that they are necessary for the greater good, Most family farms here are not financially viable and are subsidised as it is considered beneficial in other ways. It's the same for off-shore islands, Irish speaking areas, public transport, regional airports etc. Otherwise the economy of the country would be focused on the east coast.

Is there no market for a budget fuel operator to either sell fuel/petrol/diesel at a break-even or even a loss leader price point? At least in regards to the normal Petrol Station punters anyway.

I don’t know - I was only asking the question as someone who isn’t involved in Fuel sales but my guess would’ve been good quality Food Court/Deli/Coffee Area for a start - Something that can be sold easily at all times of the day that Petrol would also be bought.

yea this wont be easy, but we clearly need to put protective measures in place for certain industries, or we re gonna have a major unemployment problem, and probably major supply issues, we need to make sure people can afford their most critical needs, this could potentially be another opportunity for a ubi style system, i.e. implement carbon taxes, but make sure the individuals affected are state supported, not an easy one though

there are limitations to taxation, if we keep playing this game, i.e. keeping taxing the public, and not offering functioning alternatives, our economy will eventually fall over, we clearly have to get off fossil fuels asap, but im not sure we know how to do it, without crashing economies.

oh and i wasnt protesting over water, as i am conflicted here also, we clearly need to preserve water, but again, we cant keep just 'taxing' to do so.... i also wont be involved in this protest either, but can understand why those that are

It's a misguided push. All the chemicals and gases produced in mining and making batteries.

They are entitled to protest but not to illegally block roads.

They definitely have a case because whether we acknowledge it or not "the white line is the lifeline of the nation".

Having said that I won't be trying to make it to Dublin Port on the morning of the protest so won't be discommoded if I was I wouldn't be too pleased.

If a truck is taxed, insured, CVRTed etc. the driver is entitled to drive it on a public road. If many of them choose to do it at the same time it will obviously result is severe congestion but technically they are not blocking the roads.

Disabled people can claim tax back on their fuel. Something similar like you suggest sounds like the right move although personally I'd like the cost to come down and I avoid those petrol stations who take the proverbials with their price hikes. I wonder if those meeting up at the designated starting points on Wednesday will avoid purchasing anything at those locations as they are ones who seem to be price gouging with their fuel.

Best of luck to them. They've kept the country fed all through this nightmare and yet like so many of the 'essential workers' get treated like shyte.

Yeh that’s a given anyway seeing as coffee is a legit rip-off

Does anyone actually know who is organising this, or even how organised it is? The Irish Truckers and Haulage Association against Fuel Prices is literally just a facebook page set up in October, the Irish Road Hauliers Association have said nothing to do with them, I've heard from the Guards that the organisers are not liaising with them as to what's planned.....

All there seems to be is a facebook idea that truckers should meet up at certain petrol stations and drive towards Kildare St until they can't go any further then stop! No other plan than that - no let's try hand a petition to a minister, no let's have speeches, just drive into Dublin at rush hour and block it up. There seems to be no other organisation than that behind it, or anyone taking credit/responibility for what happens.

Seems fierce unfair that some randomer on Facebook can decide lets feck up Dublin for everyone for a day - and off we go.