Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

I said that in September 2020 we did not have vaccines let alone know what they could do if anything.

The interim data on the Phase I/II study didn`t change that. They were only in relation to safety, immunogenicity and dose levels. Not only were the numbers small with a narrow age group (76 participants aged 19-54 where just 45 were vaccinated) Pfizer stated in that interim report "...findings are not proof of vaccine efficacy. Efficacy will be determined in a pivotal Phase III trial."

This is fantastic for Mehole & Co. A ready made scapegoat in a few weeks time. "we didnt foresee young people trying to make the best of a bad thing and still flocking to these Evening Clubs"

I came back from the UK a few weeks ago.

Nobody checked my Covid Cert or passenger locator form in Dublin . Were they supposed to ?

Mind you, you would swear that Covid never existed over there. It was amazing.

They do spot checks at the airport - they don't check every person.

Since you *might* be the person they check, it's a gamble to not have it.

When I was asked for mine they were happy as soon as I reached into my pocket to get it and then rushed me on without actually examining it.

I admire the positivity but I think that will likely happen by next week as our numbers will go berserk

In 2 weeks time we should have the over 80s boosters done and a fine dent made in the other 2 groups. I would expect our hospital numbers to start falling by then also

All things going well they should reopen the pubs in 3 weeks time

I'm basing this on a slightly slower increase in the 2 week hospital numbers this week vs last 95 vs 121 (702 in the 2 weeks to yesterday, 607 in the 2 weeks to the 10th and 486 in the 2 weeks to the 3rd) and deaths this week down about 40% on last (43 v 74)

Of course I could be very wrong but lets see what happens in the next few days

When did pubs get closed???

The pubs are still open

so are nightclubs just they have to close at midnight

Nightclubs generally only come to life at midnight when pubs close in

The Nolan Show on BBC Radio this morning after the announcement that pubs, clubs, restaurants, cinemas and concerts would require passes from the 13th of December - "Lateral Flow Tests can be forged...we'll need proof of vaccination *and* a negative test!" He's going to have more of this tomorrow. It's been the same for weeks in the lead up to yesterday's announcement. "Why don't we have certs like the south?" Certs announced (along with a DUP ammendment to allow LFT). "Lateral Flow Tests aren't good enough!" "Why aren't places of worship included?!" You think the media in the south is bad...

In theory not ‘closed’ , just soulless sterile, and a bit like sitting in a dentists waiting room.

Pubs as we knew them are finished. The days of an informal meeting with the lads (or girls) are gone.

of course someone is going to post and say ‘my pub isn’t like that’ - it is. Showing your papers to have a pint is the stuff of East Germany.

Leo out following the agenda, gets his CNN interview out of it. He’s really fallen into line this year.

You didn't give me any source, you just posted something which turned out to be the title of the current ECDC report. Which was not the image you've just posted. Do you understand the concept of links?

Or possibly the concept of reading? I haven't answered your question because it's totally unrelated to the topic.

No, that was not my original premise (which is still my current premise - you're the one moving the goalposts and blathering on about irrelevances).

You said that everyone should be aware the viruses can mutate since we regularly have new flu variants. I agreed with you, and pointed out how disturbing it was that the Tanaiste said that the Government weren't aware in summer last year that Covid could have variants. At all. (A statement I provided a link sourcing.)

Since then you've gone off on some bizarre twisted path deviating into rambling on about variants of concern, the ECDC, anything you can think of to try to excuse the government for claiming they didn't know the thing you yourself said everyone should know. No wonder you're such a supporter of them, you've a similar difficulty trying to keep track of all the contradictory nonsense you're spouting. Have you ever thought abut running for election?

"Varadkar: Heartbroken we're back in this position" - eh, stop being a fuckin drama queen Leo. We reopened and cases are rising. Why didn't you put it in context that the case numbers are out of 5 MILLION? Wouldn't make a good headline for your appearance on CNN though would it you dramatic prick.

Just under 68% nationally, they have parts where it's a lot less than that, as low as 57%, and they are the ones badly affected now. We are nearly 10% above their national rate, so coping for now.