Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

So we have a triple header coming up this month. Mexico on the 7th, Brazil on the 14th and Qatar on the 21st.

I mean...they probably have access to a big workforce. And no unions etc

Ah, I get ya. The heat might play in their favour a bit to help that. Turkey and Portugal didn't have that around the time of the races.

If it means low grip, on a track that looks as fast as that, we could have an interesting weekend.

Prediction: Saudi Arabia gets cancelled and Bahrain outer circuit replaces it.

They also want drivers wages capped too. I do not see that happening so no Porsche in F1 either which is OK by me if that's what they want. It does not happen in football where players get payed stupid money for running around a field and kicking a ball. At least Formula 1 drivers actually have to train hard for all the stresses and g forces in the cars they race and actually work racing the cars. In my mind all F1 drivers should be paid even more not less. Cut footballers pay first back to reasonable money of no more that €100000 a year and then maybe F1 drivers might take a pay cap.

If it did happen I see the likes of Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Lando, Carlos, Charles and even Max all leaving F1 maybe setting up there own world race formula. Maybe the big teams like Ferrari, Mclaren Mercedes and Red Bull would leave it too. That would be interesting.

You can reign in your faux outrage chum. Considering the Middle East region and their usage of migrant workers, it wouldn't be too farfetched to say the construction project is using the aforementioned labour.

Also, as far as I am aware, the only European construction companies involved is Tilke's design company (and they are on board as a consultancy) and Losberger De Boer. There are several Saudi based construction and engineering firms involved, hence my facetious post previous.

You're clearly offended by the word slave, and while I'm not going into an argument on a Formula 1 message board, however I suggest you do a bit of research (even a quick google to educate yourself) on the Kafala labour system they use in Saudi Arabia. It is essentially modern slavery, hence my use of the word slave.

Considering the mountain of documented evidence on the exploitation of migrant workers in Saudi Arabia and most of the Middle East, I'm unsure why you've taken umbrage with the use of the word 'slave', considering they are akin to modern slaves with very little, if any rights. Again, my previous post was facetious, however you've decided to take offence to it.

The ones he would be talking about aren't allowed to have phones.

Well good on them. I for one hope they do not get into F1 at all. F1 do not need them. Its perfect now the way it is and with who is in it.

F1 needs more engine manufacturers. Mercedes-Benz have themselves and 3 customer teams, Ferrari have 2 customers, Honda have a works deal with the Red Bull teams which is going in house next year and Renault only have their own Alpine team. No way is that perfect. I remember in the late 90s, aside from Benetton and Williams sharing the works Renault, every team seemed to have their own exclusive engine supplier. Granted some of them like Hart and Yamaha were never exactly competitive but they existed.

Rules changes usually make things less competitive in the beginning as there's greater scope to diverge in development and some get it more right than others. Someone might jump up the order which would be exciting but Mercedes winning everything by a country mile is no better than Red Bull winning everything by a country mile. And those are the two situations we've had in the last 2 formula formula changes.

Incidentally, what happens in the event of a draw in the WDC points after the final race? Do they go through the season as a whole and weigh up performance or what happens?

Yep, although it's never happened before in F1. Closest finish was half a point in 1984 between Prost and Lauda. Champ Car did have a tie in 1999 though. Montoya beat Franchitti on number of wins.