Kin - RTE & AMC

Princess Calla · 03-11-2021 6:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118113686#Comment_118113686

I think their dad was a criminal. Doesn't Bridy say to Nikitta that her mum found it easier when the dad was inside when she had the kids to look after.

So I suppose it's lifestyle, the same way you'll have generations of the same family on social welfare.

redn90 · 03-11-2021 7:32pm

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what is it with people being up gillen's arse all the time 🤣.

Ash.J.Williams · 03-11-2021 9:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118111902#Comment_118111902

First few queens albums are amazing

Effects · 03-11-2021 11:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118114851#Comment_118114851

Yeah, you're right. I haven't been giving it my full attention while watching it.

greenspurs · 04-11-2021 9:24am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118114396#Comment_118114396

I think his character might like that !!!

😂

Seathrun66 · 04-11-2021 9:14pm

Well, this discussion seems to have died a death. What say we shut it down and re-convene on the Fair City thread? I'm keen to see what the attraction is for all you lads and lassies.

greenspurs · 05-11-2021 8:45am

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The series is over, what do you expect....

You want people to keep saying how bad it was, while the others keep saying how great it was with positive reviews online?

Ten of Swords · 05-11-2021 10:36am

Wonder when we will know if there will be a second season or not (official notification). The numbers from Ireland alone won't cut it so it depends on it's performance in the US as they write the cheques.

Peter McKenna said he has written a draft of S2-E1 anyway

https://www.thesun.ie/tv/7845476/rte-kin-series-two-tight-lipped-bloody-finale-shock/

Effects · 05-11-2021 10:39am

It's in preproduction already.

Seathrun66 · 05-11-2021 1:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118121540#Comment_118121540

I think we can expect more of the same if a Hidden Assets thread develops.

PTH2009 · 05-11-2021 2:43pm

Wonder does Eamonn have an adult son who will be out for blood to avenge his father's death

We saw his Daughers but they didn't seem to be interested in him much

Ten of Swords · 05-11-2021 3:31pm

^^Sounds a bit cliched, if Eamon had an adult son he would have been involved in the business already and would have likely been his closest confidante, the role that Con Doyle occupied for the series

Why did the Family Tree have Bren's named wife and unnamed daughter (who would have been Jimmy & Michael's sister) who we never saw? No faces on the family tree so they presumably were never meant to be 'on screen' characters but they never even got a mention. Scrapped storyline or unused dialogue mentioning them I wonder?

Gadgetman496 · 05-11-2021 3:51pm

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Kin Season 2 Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OAKfybh6L0

10000maniacs · 14-11-2021 7:35pm

The whole Kin story is more or less the same story as the Godfather, with Claire Dunne playing the character of Michael Corleone.

The final church scene is a carbon copy of the Godfather church scene at the end where all the Kinsella adversaries get the bullet.

JP Liz V1 · 15-11-2021 2:51am

Cox is returning as Daredevil for Marvel Disney

Effects · 15-11-2021 11:15am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118165793#Comment_118165793

That's right. Been mentioned countless times here already.

10000maniacs · 15-11-2021 5:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118168261#Comment_118168261

Went back 20 pages and was only mentioned once. Twice if you count the replies.

Sebastian Dangerfield · 15-11-2021 5:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118123070#Comment_118123070

Not sure they need to go down that route to be honest. Michael killed the son of the big gangster (cant remember if they named him), I'm sure it wouldn't take a genius to figure out the crowd that Eamon was at war with in Dublin might have had a hand in it.

HeidiHeidi · 15-11-2021 5:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118170375#Comment_118170375

It was mentioned so many times, I was considering asking for it to be made a sticky or something so that it wouldn't keep coming up again and again, with everyone thinking they were the first ones to be smart enough to spot it!

Effects · 15-11-2021 6:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118170375#Comment_118170375

You know I'm right. You're just trying to get me to waste time going back over old posts, to prove you wrong. No chance!!!

McGarnigle2020 · 24-11-2021 10:54pm

I'm actually staggered at how bad it was. 8 episodes later, it's over 3 odd weeks, and I couldn't even care less who died by the end of it. From the plot to the pace and most baffling, the casting. A show about Dublin gangsters and Ciaran Hinds and the Con Doyle lad were about the only believeable ones in the entire cast (oh, and the patriarch who made a 3 minute appearance from prison)

Where even to start-

Drug lords post John Gilligan tend to live in, with the odd exception, average ex council and suburban semis. Simply can't get away with anything bigger, bar a few lads who made their money pre CAB and came to various levels of settlement. House may be kitted out to the nines internally and in the back garden, but standard homes nonetheless for the most part. Hard to explain a mansion when passing yourself off as a moderately successful car dealer, horse dealer, builder etc etc. For the Kinsella's to own a three or four house compound in the shadow of Landsdowne Rd, exactly how many of them are working for the car dealers and how successful is it.
Bizarre plot bits. Why was Amanda hopping on the husband for a middle of the night ride barely 24 hours after her son was shot dead?
Middle class actors, with middle class accents, middle class dress sense, spending most of their days in a middle class area. Gilllen's job was to look grumpy and pissed for 8 episodes. Dunne's, to stare out windows and play some sort of alpha female. Nikita, to look astoundingly hot and do little else for the first 7 episodes. Birdy, the family Consigliere who seems to be housebound.
Appallingly scenery shots- most of Love Hate took place in Dublin's grimier estates, clubs and pubs. Most of Kin took place in a Dermot Bannon renovation.

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that your man's daughter is mixed. Nor the cousin's missus. Their henchman, while statistically unlikely I can think of at least three gangland figures of said background.

When the lead Garda investigator, Amanda's lawyer, at least one social worker, their receptionist, and pretty much every second extra is of an ethnic background, it starts taking the piss a bit.

If this was critically lauded, imagine the Sopranos, except a Sopranos where nearly none of the main cast were actually working class Italian American actors, where all the lawyers were black instead of Jewish, where none of the cast actually dressed in the Fila tracksuits and button up casual shirts that Italians in NJ wear, where Carmela ended up taking over the mob because of male infighting, and so on.

That was Kin, basically. It's biggest failure being that by the final episode I couldn't care less who got killed.

JP Liz V1 · 10-02-2022 6:47pm

AMC has renewed

Gadgetman496 · 10-02-2022 7:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118612087#Comment_118612087

Series one had a consolidated average of over 621,000 viewers on RTÉ One and, to date, 2.7 million streams on RTÉ Player, making Kin the most successful drama in Ireland last year.

Production on season 2 will begin this summer and will see the Kinsellas as the top dogs in Dublin.

MOR316 · 10-02-2022 8:25pm

Good God...

PTH2009 · 10-02-2022 9:19pm

Happy enough it's been renewed

So are we going to see the battle of the women Amanda vs Birdy vs Eamonns widow/daughters etc

Surely the turkish guys will be out to avenge the death of one of the leaders and that will keep Micky and Jimmy occupied

Vikings adventures in jail and maybe mourning his dad

Ten of Swords · 11-02-2022 2:43am

Interesting, due to commence production this summer.

Hopefully some of the issues with series 1 (such as pacing and some of the dodgy audio) will be a bit more refined in series 2.

The Turks will be out for revenge and someone local will have to fill the power vacuum left by Eamon, or possibly several gangs getting into it trying to take over.

The way series 1 ended it is just assumed that the Kinsellas keep Eamons €50M of drugs because hes dead and can't pay the bounty but in reality the Kinsellas are severely weakened and can't realistically defend themselves if the location of the drugs became known, it still belongs to the Turks because Eamon hadn't paid for it yet

Wishlist:

Lingering kettle shots (2 per episode)

Gangs need more firepower

Amanda's money laundering trial

Ten of Swords · 11-02-2022 2:46am

And give Bren a much bigger role FFS!

arthursway · 11-02-2022 2:57am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118614086#Comment_118614086

I agree. He will at least bring some wit and character to the show.

I am interested to see what direction they go for next series.

I'd be lying if I didn't think that many of characters are very dull and uninteresting though.

JP Liz V1 · 11-02-2022 3:41am

Ciaran Hinds is now Oscar nominated for Belfast

Charlie Cox returning to Daredevil

Pussyhands · 11-02-2022 10:51am

Getting flashbacks of this....staring into the garden....kettles boiling....Jimmy with tears in his eyes...Amanda talking ultra slow like she's brain damaged.....quiet scenes with just that casio keyboard music playing....

Cape Clear · 11-02-2022 11:21am

The bar is very low. Fell asleep for most of the final episode don't think I missed much tbh.

PTH2009 · 11-02-2022 11:16pm

The Aviva been shown is another one

Deeper Blue · 12-02-2022 2:05am

I'm amazed it got renewed to be honest. I thought it was good in parts but had a lot of flaws. I'll give season 2 a watch just to see what it's like, but can't see myself sticking with it unless it improves on season 1. Hopefully Bren will come into it a lot more.

Agent Coulson · 12-02-2022 9:38am

It got decent reviews in the States and AMC were very happy with the numbers it drew for them so not surprised at all it get renewed to be honest.

everlast75 · 12-02-2022 10:59am

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There was a movie made recently, set in Ireland, which was, to us, absolutely awful. It was nothing like here.

When our point of view was pointed out to the makers, they do couldn't care less. The response was that the film is made for Americans looking in at Ireland.

This show seems to be to be trying to straddle both horses - appealling to the US and here.

JohnFalstaff · 12-02-2022 11:05am

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The high viewing figures from this side of the pond and the readiness of AMC to renew based on American audience reaction would imply that it has succeeded in appealing to viewers on both sides of the Atlantic, no?

Dempo1 · 12-02-2022 11:11am

I'm astonished at the news of a renewal to be honest, it had it moments albeit generally awful, I suppose no accounting for taste I guess. Did I hear the even more dreadful Bloodlands to be renewed also 🤔 that I'll certainly give a miss.

Dempo1 · 12-02-2022 11:21am

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I agree re the Late Late, the thread on last nights valentines cringe fest was so funny I had to tune in and my god it was utterly appalling, its no wonder the Audience still wearing face masks (to hide their utter embarrassment at partaking in such a spectle) 😁

OU812 · 12-02-2022 11:28am

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Which movie?

Agent Coulson · 12-02-2022 11:39am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118619897#Comment_118619897

I'll take a wild guess it is Wild Mountain Thyme.

Agent Coulson · 12-02-2022 11:43am

How many American crimes shows to we watch on this side of the world and that Americans themselves roll their eyes at these shows are made for entertainment they aren't documentries.

Kin was entertaing with a decent cast.

What I would do for season two is get in some fresh writers and not let Peter McKenna write the whole season again.

everlast75 · 12-02-2022 12:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118619816#Comment_118619816

Without fully commiting to either, perhaps

everlast75 · 12-02-2022 12:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118619928#Comment_118619928

Yes - I had to Google it but that's the one

Slydice · 12-02-2022 1:59pm

Any word if the renewal will see a budget change on the good or bad side?

I'd say some refining of the writing could bed the show down a bit better. Avoid dodgy takes on Dublin/Irish but keep an international appeal.

OU812 · 12-02-2022 2:14pm

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To be honest, watched it with a couple of drinks on me & during it & it’s a good laugh.

there’s another one made by hallmark is similarly enjoyable.

both were better than “deadly cuts” which absolutely was targeted toward an Irish audience & is woeful.

freshpopcorn · 13-02-2022 3:34am

I thought it was fine and I do understand why there's another season.

My only issue with it was Emmett J Scanlon.

thesandeman · 13-02-2022 5:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118620489#Comment_118620489

Another one coming up in the autumn about drugs coming into the west coast. A Swedish/RTE co-production. Interesting concept but I haven't seen any of it yet.

Second series already commissioned and loads of money behind it.

Homelander · 13-02-2022 11:34am

The people saying now "I'm shocked it was renewed" are just looking for a reason to bang their "it's the worst thing ever made" drum and make more attention for themselves.

They have known for a long time that the actual reviews, reception ,and viewing figures for the show are all strong. No-one claimed it was brilliant, but the vast majority found it entertaining and worth watching. If anything it would be shocking if it wasn't renewed.

Gadgetman496 · 13-02-2022 11:46am

I'm another that's delighted it got renewed. The knocking culture is very much still alive on the newish Boards.

Deeper Blue · 13-02-2022 2:22pm

Last time I checked people were entitled to dislike a television programme, or maybe that's changed and we all have to love everything?

Kin - RTE & AMC

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