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WWE Raw Superthread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Is it almost a given that for a big percentage of WWE stars would be drafted between brands at least once or twice (maybe more in some cases) during there wwe careers ?

    Kurt Angle no longer the only Olympic gold medallists' in WWE with Gable Steveson now part of Raw. Going to be a little confusing have Gable Steveson and Chad Gable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Shorty G to return?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,977 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Interesting to see how Finn comes back after the rope shenanigans. We've not heard from him since. Given how strong they made him look in all the recent Roman matches, wonder if he'll be a major title challenger on RAW.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    God, Raw is awful. Another main event, another non-finish.

    Becky's abs were the highlight of the show.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Becky's fashion sense is increasingly the highlight for me, just realised her and Rollins are basically doing the same gimmick.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Shame about the name but I think Doudrop has what it takes to become something. She has a presence about her and her facial expressions are good.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Vince was reported to say Balor would never get another title run in WWE he’s just there to put over vinces pet projects as he has credibility.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Cool, so that means Balor will be getting another title run, considering that's how these stories usually go.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc




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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I'd agree but her ring attire is awful. If she went down the Nia Jax route of wrestling gear she'd look far more bad ass imo anyways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Would you want to see him get a title run where he'd no doubt be made to look like an idiot? He's never going to be the guy for Vince so they'd never treat it seriously. He'll be built up from time to time when needed to be a challenger but there's a ceiling for him.

    He could do some interesting stuff with the likes of AJ Styles and Kevin Owens for a while outside of the title picture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I wonder will we see Edge vs. Finn



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    A Big E/Ziggler feud as a stop gap might be ok actually given their history. Doubt they will go that way but there's more mileage than the tag match in that story if they wanted imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Tonight’s tournament matches include Kofi Kingston vs. Jinder Mahal, Ricochet vs. Xavier Woods, Doudrop vs. Natalya, and Shayna Baszler vs. Dana Brooke.

    RAW will also be headlined by SmackDown Women’s Champion Becky Lynch and RAW Women’s Champion Charlotte Flair teaming up to face Sasha Banks and Bianca Belair.


    https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/10/wwe-raw-preview-for-tonight-first-round-tournament-matches-tag-team-main-event/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Yep don't think I can sleep with that question unanswered



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Well seems Mansoor isn't just being thrown into a random match this time like every other time they're in Saudi Arabia.

    Was sure they were going to have Jeff beat another NXT guy on his debut.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I’m disappointed they avoided Kofi vs Xavier. I think that would have been a far more interesting story that Xavier vs Jinder.


    Since Sami isn’t going to Saudi shows, I’d imagine it’s Finn vs Jinder as the finals? Which sounds boring as sin.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Disappointed to see ricochet buried again, jinder will probably go on to win it outside interference from the worst henchmen in the wwe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    This is just unwatchable.

    Such a talented roster booked abysmally. So many missed opportunities.



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    1.5 million must be one of the lowest ever for raw. i am surprided that many still watch this show they must watch it out of habit because they are not watching it for the qulity of the show anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I believe another Drew and Big E team up tonight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Such a pointless title match between Charlotte/Bianca.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Im sure the Family Guy manatees are booking WWE these days. Manatee balls include :

    Odd couple tag team

    2 min womens match

    Can they coexist rivals

    Zayn v Owens match

    Nxt call up loss

    Alexa doll segment

    Challenger beats champ non title match



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Xavier winning was at least somewhat ok, Jinder has no business near a ring with the amount of talent WWE have never mind in a King of the Ring final.

    The Queen's Crown is the absolute drizzling **** though. My one thought was that they were gonna have Shayna just brutalize everyone and move her onto challenging for the title, legitimately repackaged but they're going to make her Sonya Devilles enforcer instead. And now we have a final nobody ever asked for or wanted in Zelina and Doudrop.

    Raw is sucking the life out of Big E like it does any face that ever goes over there. What is the point of fighting Bobby and Ziggler two weeks in a row.

    Charlotte was obviously retaining as otherwise they'd have spoiled the triple threat match with Sasha being the only Smackdown star left.

    It's just a dumpster fire week after week, I cannot understand how they can put out a semi decent show in Smackdown and then serve up a steaming pile of dog crap in Raw, every single writer involved should have been binned off months ago.



  • Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭TimesArrow


    Another dumpster fire raw. Complete crap.


    1. who in the **** cares if those two can coexist? It’s the laziest most played out trope they go too. They could actually do something interesting with drew here b obviously don’t. The company don’t know or care about booking baby faces and both drew and E look like complete pricks
    2. the queens crown tournament is a farce. The entirety of the tournament ( 7 matches) will probably come in at under 10 minutes
    3. Goldberg is such an naturally unlikeable nasty prick. How is he a baby face. His return had been bollcowk except for the brock feud and he actually might make a decent heel but it’ll never happen. The company is so out of to cub with how people think and interact.


    pure trash. Rinse repeat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    RAW drew 1.58 and it’s lowest key demo ever.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Wasn't expecting Woods to win the semi final but did like the segment between him and Balor. A heel Balor on the main roster could work out great

    Hard to care much about Big E vs Drew as the result is just so predicable

    Kind of want Goldberg to get the **** kicked out of him but he's the babyface and Goldberg jnr will end up getting the pin or something shite



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    RKOBro take on Styles and Omos again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Well glad the draft gives us all these new matches. 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Just rebrand it to RAWmatch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Maybe they use it as a way for another team to interfere?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Another wonderful jacket from Seth Rollins



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Seems they changed the tag title match then?

    Are there no other heels that could take part in the ladder match? Is Lashley the only other possible contender?

    What do they have against T-Bar? I mean it looks like they're using the draft to give Veer another chance but not T-Bar?

    First Queen and she has to do all the work herself, such as putting on the crown and robe.

    Becky still being introduced as The Man anyway.

    How long until Keith loses his first name?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Decent enough RAW.

    Bianca and Becky's promo segment was great. Bianca is a good face. I'm a fan of Queen Zelina so far too.

    People aren't into Bearcat Lee but I kinda like it personally or at least will leave it play out. Damian Priest's new music is rubbish. They've changed so many themes lately that I know nearly none of them at this stage.

    Main event was pretty solid. Some brutal spots and I think Rollins was a good choice to win. There's actually some possibility for fresh matches in the title scene for the first time in a while.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Big E and Rollins is indeed a fresher Main Event matchup and they have good chemistry together from the NXT days.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    As a wrestler, hes pretty good but as a character and personality he is just annoying. Hes not entertaining.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Raw has definitely got a 'fresh' feel following the draft (it's mainly down to having a new and more importantly face champ with loads of new feud opportunities imo), definitely got the better side of things in the draft. Like the Smackdown women's division is now absolute pants with the departure of, well, the entire female roster with the exception of Sasha. Roman has frig all credible challengers now as well aside from McIntyre and Brock, who is part time.

    Raw is still not great but it's improving. Main event was great. Rollins as the only heel I think is the right choice, they haven't pulled the trigger on heel Balor yet (though I think it might be around the corner) so the match with Big E wouldn't work at the moment. Anyways they're probably going to park all of this contender stuff to focus on Survivor Series shortly so I guess enjoy it while it lasts?

    Bianca sort of has to win next week though doesn't she. She's racking up some amount of big match losses since Summerslam.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    This is the most entertaining Rollins has been in years, his Rick James home invasion was hilarious.

    Also the best dressed man in wrestling right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    I do enjoy his outfits and he can wrestle, no doubt. I just cant warm to him.

    Felt the home invasion was very weak, hes no Dave Chappelle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    What did Liv say to Corey? And speaking of Liv, I'm confused about what they're doing with her. Why keep giving Carmella wins over her?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Starting at 12 our time tonight. Becky v Bianca opens the show apparently. Which doesn't bode well for any kind of proper finish to the match.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Yeah, though who's likely to interfere? Queen Zelina and Carmella?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Cue a tag match made during the break, followed by 'how can these two co-exist?'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    That's a novel concept. You know what'd be a great idea some time too is if they made two feuding superstars into the tag team champions for a short while!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    I think they'll be daring and go for a double count out or *gasp* a roll-up win.



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