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Tesla Model Y

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭innrain


    Now that the initial shock is gone I'd ask what would be your ideal price for Y LR, considering:

    • Ioniq5 AWD - 65k
    • Ford E-Mach AWD extended range 75k
    • BMW i4 - with AWD Starts @78k
    • EV6 AWD - couldn't find the price TBA
    • VW Id.4 GTX - 69k (picked the max version because of the glass sunroof and heat pump)
    • Volvo XC40 recharge AWD 68k // later edit
    • And their own Model3 AWD LR 65k

    Also about price comparison with other countries: a 65K car has build in the price around 12k VAT and 4.6k VRT.

    One thing is certain. Not great times to buy a new car.

    Post edited by innrain on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,858 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,627 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭innrain


    For Model 3 there is a 13k difference before taxes between SR+ and AWD LR. If we apply the same here that would make the Y SR+ 57k which would qualify for SEAI grant resulting a theoretical OTR of 52k. That would sell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭sk8board


    The simple fact is that you want a Y today, it ‘starts from’ €69,800 - even just choose a paint colour and you’re over €70k (and another €5k in finance interest, if you go that way).

    as more and more people drive €40/45k cars with 350-450km range, never run short on juice, and tell their friends, the step up to the Tesla because of the old range anxiety argument is getting much harder to justify.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭cannco253




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,123 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Some strong criticisms from Rory. Particularly about the stiff suspension and too direct steering. Food for thought!

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Just saw the Completecar.ie review and it’s essentially the same as the others - good car, not great. Ride is too stiff, to the extent of causing some wheel hop, which is almost unacceptable really.

    hugely anticipated car, so it was always going to struggle to live up to the M3 ride and handling, as it’s higher/bigger/heavier, but on the same underpinnings.

    its also a year late to the medium-SUV EV game here in Ireland (feels like it was announced years ago), so it’s pricing makes it look just too expensive, even ‘for a Tesla’. There are now plenty better options available for MUCH less money - probably the first Tesla model to have this problem.

    The buyers here will be comparing it to an i4 maybe, esp in the €70-80k price, and the i4 m50 versus the MY P.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,123 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Plenty of other BETTER options around for much less money? Which then? 😂


    BMW i4 reviews aren't great either and nothing else can really compete

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,985 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    In many countries the Tesla supercharger network is a massive selling advantage



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    The BMW looks much smaller in the back than the Model Y. More like an Audi TT than a family sized car.

    Screenshot_20211016-123804.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,123 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    The comparison is a bit unfair. The BMW is one of the smaller D class saloons / hatches, same as Tesla Model 3. In any of them, you'd struggle to get 3 adults in the back, unless they are very small. I guess what doesn't help is the transmission tunnel in the i4, which makes the problem much worse. One of the biggest criticisms I have seen that re-occurs in pretty much any review. If you're a family of 5, forget it.

    The Model Y is a car that is a full size bigger than both of the above and seats 3 adults no problems

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭nc6000


    I've watched a bunch of the TeslaBjorn videos on YouTube and they seem to have superchargers all over Norway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭innrain


    So then which of the BMW line-up would be a direct competitor to Model Y? iX ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,123 ✭✭✭✭unkel



    In Norway and some other much more advanced countries like the Netherlands, there are plenty of public fast charging options around that are not Tesla. In most other countries though, the other chargers are few and far between, not enough of them per location, unreliable and / or expensive. Like in Ireland. In any of these countries the Tesla supercharger network is a huge benefit for anyone needing to publicly fast charge regularly.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭UhOh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,858 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Nobby's thoughts on the Y.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭s8n




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,858 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Gile_na_gile


    Ireland's best car reviewer IMO along with Sinéad McCann. Does his homework, and reviews the car with others in mind.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,954 ✭✭✭✭ELM327




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭AmberGold


    New orders now showing as Mid 22. Does that mean existing orders will be affected also, when I ordered on the 15th it was showing early '22?

    edit; forget that just had another look and its mid '22 for Performance not long range.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭Coltrane


    Treated myself recently to a trip up to Sandyford to check this out. Kevin the salesman there reckons there’ll be no Berlin RHDs during 2022. There was a red MY with Dutch plates that I could sit into, no test drives poss until the media are finished with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭s8n




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Micra92


    Hi all, apologies if this has been answered. Just wondering if anyone knows if HP finance will be available for Y?

    Only says cash price on site! Appreciate if anyone has any info.

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,123 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Quentin doesn't think it has a harsh ride, but then again, he owns a Tesla Model 3 Performance.



    TL;DR: "It really is the market leader by a considerable margin"

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭Coltrane


    The section “When I wrote the script for this…” starting at 4:54 is refreshingly honest! He had drafted his writeup - based on the reviews of many others - to be critical of the suspension. But changed his mind after a - probably short - test drive….


    These reviews are fun to watch for us fanboys but pretty thin on substance!


    Probably better to watch reviews from the US, based on more than short test drives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭cannco253




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,123 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    That's the most ridiculous car review I've ever seen. To paraphrase: "We bought the Model Y with the optional $10k full self driving option. The car is grand but FSD isn't really working yet"

    duhhh

    But it gets a lot worse, he says: "I don't think FSD is ever going to happen"

    Can we quote you on that buddy some time in the future? 🙄

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,985 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    That guy has got serious coverage across multiple platforms for that review



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