Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Black Swan · 30-09-2021 05:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117957785#Comment_117957785

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117955858#Comment_117955858

In terms of qualifications for Trump’s 2024 inner circle, to what extent does such alleged sexual backgrounds make them more attractive to Trump?

Anyone still remember seeing the hot mike Celebrity Apprentice vid of Trump bragging to Billy Bush about grabbing women in their privates, or the dozen women that came forward complaining about such behavior prior to 2016; or the extramarital affair Trump allegedly had with Marla Maples while married to his first wife Ivana Trump; or the two alleged affairs Trump had with Stormy Daniels and Playboy Bunny Stephanie Clifford (and alleged campaign payoffs) while third wife Melania Trump was pregnant with Baron?

Or what about Trump’s strong vocal supporters like Fox CEO Roger Ailes, or Fox Telly host Bill O’Reilly, and the alleged reasons Fox got rid of both of them? Was it for the propagation of Republican good family values?

pixelburp · 03-10-2021 08:43AM

I guess being in the social media wilderness is hurting; Trump opens a case via a federal judge in Florida to force Twitter to restore Trump's account 🙄

Give me my ball back, cries a former president.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/02/donald-trump-asks-florida-judge-to-force-twitter-to-reinstate-account

Nody · 03-10-2021 08:47AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117969707#Comment_117969707

Nah; it's to ensure he can get more donations for his case etc. Any lawyer who's not a fawning sycophant would have told him he has no case (in the same way he'd have no chance to sue Facebook; private companies have to be in control on a whole different level for them to be equated to state level which is required for 1st amendment). This is purely PR stunt to pull get more money from his ~~fools~~ followers and ego boosting at best (and "proof" of how he's being targeted and it's all a conspiracy etc.). Leagle Eagle (yes, he's an actual lawyer) did a short youtube video on it as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ5yQHUMH7w&ab_channel=LegalEagle

pixelburp · 03-10-2021 10:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117969714#Comment_117969714

Oh when it comes to Trump everything's a grift for sure and someone down the chain is set up to pay for it ... but I do also believe there's a personal element at play; in that Trump has found the closure of what was his primary tool of communication tough to bare. Quick to forget just how much of his presidency was conveyed and expressed through social media. And despite his best efforts on the guest speaker front, he has quickly fallen from the headlines; that's gotta hurt an insecure egotist like him.

And yes, I do agree it's also continuing this false narrative from conservatives that the tech industry is liberal and bias against them - cos one can't continue the victim complex without frivolous lawsuits confirming their bias. That Trump is the conservative poster child at all is hilarious, but that's another segue.

Fathom · 06-10-2021 09:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117969707#Comment_117969707

This is a test. Trump was banned for Jan 6 and the Big Lie. If they remove Trump's ban, they should unban everone ever banned.

Itssoeasy · 08-10-2021 06:17PM

Shockingly the trump aides who were subpoenaed didn’t comply by the deadline of yesterday which as we know was most likely at the urging of trump himself. Btw, trump is saying he’ll invoke executive privilege which is grand escort he’s not the president anymore and so he can’t invoke it.

Quin_Dub · 08-10-2021 11:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117994442#Comment_117994442

As regards the Executive privilege thing.

It's not quite as simple as we all might hope , Trump can and certainly will obstruct and delay significantly.

From what I've read the process is that the House/Senate Committee asks for stuff and the Biden team can agree to waive privilege , which in this case they have.

However , Trump as the original owner can object and he then has 60 days to lodge the specifics of his request, which then gets reviewed( by the DOJ I guess). If his objection is denied he can probably go to court which if he is even vaguely allowed he will do so, which will delay even further.

So , realistically we're still probably months away at least from seeing/hearing anything

aloyisious · 13-10-2021 02:15AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117995807#Comment_117995807

That would mean Trump is, in effect, trying to claim the documents etc subpoenaed are "presidential papers" as distinct from personal presidential documents [like those in libraries set up by former presidents to house their personal papers for viewing by the public in scholastic circumstances] in order to assert his "privilege immunity" claim. The cure for that would be to find amongst the documents he is claiming are "privileged" some of whose contents have already been revealed to the public by Trump and persuade a judge in camera that the claim is false. Get a judge/s to examine the claims veracity by looking at the documents contents and rule Trump had already put them in the public domain. Trump was very candid in public at times where it came to matters usually kept privileged by presidents.

aloyisious · 13-10-2021 02:19AM

Ref funding his supposed 2024 re-election campaign, are the Koch Brothers keeping to their their 2020 statements that they wouldn't fund his campaign?

Quin_Dub · 13-10-2021 10:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118012105#Comment_118012105

Don't get me wrong , he hasn't a leg to stand on here , but the process is such that he potentially can delay and frustrate the process for a while yet.

The GOP/Trump goal is clearly to try to delay the release until after the mid-terms in the hopes that the GOP take back the House when they'll just shutdown all the investigations.

aloyisious · 14-10-2021 09:34AM

Yes, that's a taken about his tactics. Needle the opposition until they throw up their hands and give in. He has no shame....

aloyisious · 14-10-2021 09:41PM

Looking at a US civil rights issues page on Facebook, it claims that Don has told his Republicans supporters that if the GOP sorted out the 2020 election fraud issue, they shouldn't come out and vote in the 2022 and 2024 elections. It'd be nice if he was going to duck the chance of standing for election again, even if the reason he's giving is as fake as hell, one where the GOP is the culprit and not him.

https://amongthefray.wordpress.com/2021/10/14/trump-tells-republicans-not-to-vote-in-2022-or-2024/

Quin_Dub · 15-10-2021 11:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118021252#Comment_118021252

That's one way to look at it - Giving himself the air cover to not run by saying that it's all rigged so there's no point etc.

It's also a mafia style threat to the GOP - "Rig the election in my favour or I'll burn the whole thing down with you in it."

One way or another, it works for the only person that matters to Trump , himself.

Either he gets the GOP to destroy US Democracy and hand him victory in an Election that he will lose (2024) or he gets to leave the field with his ego intact , probably destroying the GOP on his way out as well.

amandstu · 15-10-2021 02:10PM

@Quin_Dub

"it works for the only person that matters to Trump , himself."

To think that his supporters haven't worked that out.

Mind you ,if he does manage to destroy the GOP he will have done the States some service.(their 2 party system is a toxic anachronysm)

Heil to the Saviour.

aloyisious · 17-10-2021 08:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118022942#Comment_118022942

I made a very MAJOR typo in my post. It should have read "if the GOP HADN'T sorted out the........ republicans shouldn't vote in the 2022 and 2024.... so, as you both point out, he [or a backroom strategist] has worked out a way to unload the blame on Mitch McConnell et al again using the voter against the GOP.

briany · 17-10-2021 10:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117969857#Comment_117969857

He's still in the headlines far, far more than an ex-president ought to be, which is troubling. In typically Trumpian fashion, he has broken with protocol. He's not living the relatively quiet life of an ex-president. He's out doing rallies, he's on Fox News, he's publishing statements and remains very much in control of the Republican party. Yes, losing his Twitter account was a blow, but not a knockout one. When he actually starts facing some legal consequences for his outrageous behaviour while president, then he'll change his tune, but the process is so slow, I'm beginning to lose faith anything will happen on that front before the Republican party contests the 2022 midterms and possibly regains control over both chambers.

Itssoeasy · 18-10-2021 05:15PM

The January 6th rioter who attacked officer Micheal Fanone(he’s the officer who slammed the table when testifying before congress) has said in court documents that he was acting under the “authority” of former president trump when he attacked the US capitol. I’m sure trump world won’t be liking those comments made by trump supporters in court documents.

Quin_Dub · 18-10-2021 07:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118037479#Comment_118037479

Is that one of the ones that is representing themselves in court?

So far there's about 6 of them that have gone this route.

One guy last week confessed to 2 or 3 other crimes during his own testimony that they hadn't charged him with..

Another claimed that the court had no jurisdiction as they were answerable only to God.

Itssoeasy · 18-10-2021 08:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038222#Comment_118038222

Im not sure but it wouldn’t surprise me.

amandstu · 18-10-2021 09:41PM

@Quin_Dub ,"Another claimed that the court had no jurisdiction as they were answerable only to God."

maybe they could claim that they were only answerable to the Dear Leader

kowloon · 18-10-2021 10:06PM

So, if Trump ran for president again and won the election, would it suspend all civil cases against him again?

aloyisious · 18-10-2021 10:40PM

The BBC World Service has reported Trump has gone to the USSC asking it to put a stop to the Committee hearings on matters it is investigating involving him as president are "executive-privileged" therefore outside the legal scope of the committee.

aloyisious · 18-10-2021 11:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118039075#Comment_118039075

It might end up in another round of impeachment moves against him, were he to run again AND get elected again. Then again, if he were to be convicted in court before the voting started at any level, even the individual state committee stages, the USSC might tell him it wont hear any case he and his legal team petitions it to hear because of the conviction. Civil cases might be seen by the USSC as outside its remit if they were brought in State courts by citizens [singular or class-action cases] against Trump over his own actions or the actions of others thinking he had given them power to commit criminal actions against the citizens. I don't know if any Cops injured in the line of duty against the Capitol Hill mob have stated cases against Trump on the basis of the Mob members court defence claims that their actions were authorised by then-President Trump.

Quin_Dub · 19-10-2021 12:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118039261#Comment_118039261

Now that's a test for "his" Supreme Court.

The decision on Executive Privilege is made by the sitting President , which despite his plaintive whimpers to the Contrary is not Donald Trump.

The only valid legal response from the USSC on this is "The President has approved the document release , you aren't the President now go away"

aloyisious · 19-10-2021 10:09AM

Reading an Extra.ie item on an MSNBC page about his latest legal move, it seems Trump wants some information [disputed documents] the committee IS TO GET possession of from the National Archive in early Nov be omitted when, presumably a committee report or press release, is made public. It makes one suspect that there's something which he doesn't want the public or his base to hear or get to know about his activities on the 06 Jan 2020....

Donald Trump filed a lawsuit against a select committee which is investigation the circumstances surrounding the riots last January. The lawsuit also targets the country’s National Archive.

In the suit filed on Monday, Mr Trump’s representatives have argued that some of the information due to be released by the committee should be protected.

It is argued that documents which contained confidential communications gathered in the committee investigation should be omitted when they are released to the public.

Mr Trump’s team suggested that those communications should be protected by executive privilege, which they argued should have been afforded to him as a result of his former role of Commander in Chief.

Timberrrrrrrr · 19-10-2021 06:19PM

Trump staying as classy as ever, is there nothing this man won't say or do to make it all about himself?

I have no love for Powell and believe he should have stood trial for the lies he told to the UN that got America into the second Iraq war but this is just unbelievable from Trump.

pixelburp · 19-10-2021 06:32PM

We have seen enough politicians pass such that this crass, obnoxious and bitter broadside is fairly boilerplate stuff from Trump. Makes you wonder if any deaths in his own family have elicited a scintilla of empathy. God knows he can't fake any for peers or compatriots. I have no fondness for Powell or his actions but he leaves grieving family behind, and shouldn't be a big ask from a public figure to show them some sympathy

Timberrrrrrrr · 19-10-2021 07:38PM

I'm sure he will have another rant when he isn't invited to the funeral and will blame the usual Liberal lefties or "fake news" somehow.

Itssoeasy · 19-10-2021 07:52PM

Just when you think you can’t be surprised any more by Donald trump, he proves us all wrong by sinking even lower. I mean there have been bad things you can say about most US presidents of the modern era, but one thing that had in common is when they were and are called upon to do the basics of offering condolences to a family as ex president, they can at least do that with some degree of decency. All except Donald trump who couldn’t even lower the flags at the White House and as was mentioned he had to get a slight in.

whatever else you may think of Colin Powell, he due to his military service in Vietnam and after that deserves the flag lowering and whatever else is due him. I mean Trump at least once complained that he didn’t get credit for lower the flags, when in reality he didn’t even do anything special.

Itssoeasy · 19-10-2021 07:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118043883#Comment_118043883

Well to elicite empathy don’t you need to have some ?

Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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