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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭DarkJager21


    Believe it or not some of us don't like looking at the same 4 walls every day, and what a stupid analogy with the gamer thing. I always laugh when I read comments that paint a WFH job as some cushy number - I bet anything you do a day in my job and you'll be legging it out the door before lunchtime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭MilkyToast



    Dengvaxia campaign was launched in the Phillipines in April 2016 after approved for commercial sale in December 2015. The campaign was suspended in December 2017 after it was found that it could cause more severe disease (hypothesised antibody dependent enhancement) in people who were vaccinated without having ever been infected with dengue. About 700,000 people had received at least one dose of the vaccination.

    It remains a fairly high effectiveness vaccine in use, but is only given to people who have previously been infected with dengue.

    Being told things "never" happen gets old. "There's not even any mechanism by which the mRNA injections could cause any serious side effects" was something being thrown about before the GBS, clots, myocarditis etc. came to light.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Mr rebel


    Exactly, the “shur isn’t it great to be able to keep the table service” brigade don’t seem to be factoring in that keeping table service only means a capacity limit. So Johnny who finishes his shift at 10pm and wants to pop out for a pint won’t be able to get into the pub as they have already well maxed out their capacity limit by then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,976 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    I am coming over to Dublin next week and going to a gig in the Olympia Theatre that is standing (was originally meant to be 14 March last year and has been rescheduled numerous times since). Looks like I won't get in then if I understand the rules correctly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    They're a fiver in Aldi, or more expensive ones with more proven accuracy online. I've been antigen testing before visiting vulnerable family for months.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero


    I am just pointing out that its not the hour you said, its more like 2 on a Friday or Saturday night, you referenced no time limits at home, you said nothing about limited capacity.

    The capacity won't be enforced in every venue as thats been the case for a while now.

    I only go to places wheres covid rules are ignored, and when I hear that a place has dropped the covid theatre I frequent it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    What's the story with bars with a late license? Everyone seated until 12.30 and then the tables are cleared so everyone can boogie on the dancefloor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,614 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    A countdown like New Year's Eve as everyone waits for the clock to strike 12:30



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    A save face statement. Does anyone honestly believe the content of these letters is not fully agreed between NPHET and the government prior to release to minimise the appearance of dissent. NPHET were told we were going to start using antigen testing based on the Ferguson review and put in that paragraph so it would appear they were in agreement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,808 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    11:30 includes a half hour drink-up time so effectively it's gone from 11:00 last orders to 12:30 at the weekends, and most places pushed the 12:30 out to about 12:45 or 1am, I hope to see that make a comeback



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Well if there is a full rollout agreed then we have absolutely zero details of how that will work or who and when it will be used? Nada.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    They want nightclubs to open so that they can that they allowed them to as per the plan. How they did so doesn't really matter and they popped into a local creche to canvass the rules!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    I don't know about that. I'm a bit of a hermit myself. Prefer hosting a dinner party to visiting a club any day of the week. I'm an artist, so I don't mingle in an office or whatever. I play my fair share of video games. And I've been opposed to every restriction right from the beginning.

    Some of the people most in favour of it all that I know are social butterflies, and some of the social butterflies would have had no restrictions at all given the choice. It's down to individual levels of risk aversion, philosophy on government intervention, level of media consumption, awareness of propaganda strategies, etc.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Anyone have a quick run down of what restriction are lifted in pubs & night clubs ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭darconio


    Are hospitality staff obliged to provide proof of vaccination? Watch out for who's serving at your table or pouring that pint, or the next deliveroo. I've seen human beings behaving "strangely" when cornered or when being treated like "outsiders"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Pubs - table capacity moving from 6 to 10 and normal trading hours to resume. All other restrictions remain (i.e. masks when moving around, no bar service, covid pass and ID to enter etc).

    Clubs - nobody has any fuking idea.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,808 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    If it's the Rend Collective gig then it's been postponed

    If your ticket is for the standing area of the crowd (usually called General Admission) then logically speaking this would be your "seat"

    Logic isn't a strong suit of our restrictions though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    Well Aldi where I live do. They're a fiver each or five tests for €20 iirc. By the tills. I didn't buy any because I already ordered a big batch online, but they were definitely there.

    Pretty sure you'll find anything that's in Lidl in Aldi a week later. 😂

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭Amadan Dubh




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    Can somebody explain that this means??

    so they put the enforcement on business? so how are they to do that considering it's illegal to even ask if you've been vaccinated.

    This is a nice little turn of phrase now altogether.....HTF do they enforce the covid pass??? He's saying mandate it without mandating it no?


    Taoiseach @MichealMartinTD

    sums up the Government's message on #Covid19 in three requests: Wear a mask when meeting indoors; if you run a business, enforce the Covid pass; and if you are not vaccinated, get a vaccine | Live blog: https://bit.ly/3AV7DgG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    They'll be closed by then possibly. I wouldn't put it past this shower honestly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Pubs will never be the same again willt hey,

    The whole enjoyment of a pub is going to socialise, meet & char with people you don't expect to see there

    There's nothing that would motivate you to leave your own home for a drink with the restrictions ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero


    A few bars I was in just put a high table against the counter and lads gathered around that. So now we will have pods of 10 gathered around the "table" at the counter.



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    actually sorry, I misunderstood that, he means enforce entry to the pub via the pass.. sorry folks.....back to my book now.. 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,808 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I saw that also... Very inventive to give the pub owners their due



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭snowgal


    Its all very confusing tbh..............As per usual! Can someone tell me please, can I go to a fully seated Music event this Friday if I and everyone there have a vaccine passport? Will the event go ahead at full capacity in this circumstance? Because if not, the agent will pull the show..........



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