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ESB eCars

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    I see a new 50kW charger in Tallaght? It seems they've replaced the one in The Square



  • Moderators Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Yup. That went in a few days ago.

    Crude, and I could do with adding the date it came online, but here's a list of the new units in the last 30 days:

    https://ecars-stats.com/new_units.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    Nice one. I think it is the second new unit installed by ecars in Dublin since 2019. Keep up the good work ecars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,189 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    we won't know ourselves soon with all these 2-3 new DC chargers in the capitol....

    Message to all apartment dwellers: The time for EV is now.......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭cannco253


    Is there any way to track the EasyGo rollout of locations?

    It would be great to be able to compare the speed/# units they bring online and compare it to eCars (something like the Ionity tracker https://ionity.ev-info.eu/).

    I know the plugshare api is private, but is there another way of getting the data? I can't see anything on the Etrel site that would be helpful.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    Absolutely. And soon we will have the first hub with an Ultra Fast Charger which could potentially charge 4 cars if one can stack on top of another.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,189 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I believe the first 100 of those new ABB 360kW hyper units off the production line are already earmarked for eCars



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,435 ✭✭✭markpb



    I dunno, even with a lot more fast charging available, it's still nowhere near as convenient as home charging. Unless their location happens to coincide with somewhere you are anyway and you're there at the same frequency as your car needs charging, charging is still a chore. Someone needs to solve the apartment charging issue. In the end, I suspect it comes down to money (to pay for the install), ESB Networks (to facilitate it without taking the mick) and sorting out issues with dedicated parking spaces. Perhaps when EVs are dominant enough, OMCs will start installing unmetered, low-power plugs at every parking space. This should reduce the cost and complexity of the install and the increase in power can be recouped by an increase in management fees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,189 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Where do people typically spend anywhere from 10-30 minutes..... grocery stores.

    EasyGo are on the right track installing 50kW DC chargers in SuperValu stores. Lets hope their cash injection helps speed up this roll out.

    eCars installing AC charges in Tesco carparks... I guess they assumed people spend 2+ hours at their local Tesco?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    Asked Easygo yesterday about DC rollout with that €15 million investment. They responded that DC is the way they are going and they will be looking at multi-bay DC chargers too! I couldn't find any DC Easygo in their app, all ecars on the motorway routes I use, they pointed me to DCU for an example (thought Easygo was all AC from any I had seen) but at least they plan to put plenty of DC rapid chargers into the ground in the future. Great to hear!



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,264 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    eCars installing AC charges in Tesco carparks... I guess they assumed people spend 2+ hours at their local Tesco?

    Did we ever figure out if it's Tesco or ESB paying for the chargers in Tesco car parks?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,189 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    In Kinnegad plaza (where the M4 spilts off into the M4/M6) there are 2 EasyGo 50kW units'

    Screenshot 2021-10-19 at 11.13.59.png




  • Moderators Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Long time since I looked, but it wasn't as trivial as Ecars. Doing it through my phone isn't fun either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Ha, yeah they're probably getting the dud units at a discount

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,139 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I did a similar-ish trip at the weekend in herself's Ioniq. Meath - dublin - meath - roscommon- meath. We charged at Park Ri Kells (2* ecars chargers) and then at Ionity Athlone.

    We were the third car to charge at Ionity, the first of the two available chargers didnt work and the second one did thankfully. Ecars 150kW was in use so we opted for Ionity. While we were there there was a queue for Ionity.

    It's getting busier out there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I'm a bit suspicious about a lot of the HPCs that have been installed by Ionity and other companies. They seem to depend a lot on the temperature control and if anything goes out of whack they go into error mode

    I feel like if those HPCs see a lot of traffic they're going to start overheating and shut down. I wonder how much endurance testing they did on them during design

    This is where modular designs like Tesla or Kempower have an advantage because if a module gets too hot they can switch in a different module while the first one cools down

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,139 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    To be fair I was beside a taycan and an etron, and then an ID4, so I think they had much more effect than the Ioniq's puny by comparison 69kW!

    I think you're right. You never see Tesla SuC down but Ionity seem to fail a lot. As do EA in the US.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,264 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    I think you're right. You never see Tesla SuC down but Ionity seem to fail a lot. As do EA in the US.

    I wonder if that's the Apple Effect, it's relatively easy to make hardware within a single supplier ecosystem. You can engineer to actual hardware instead of to an integration spec and then testing against multiple suppliers. I also think Tesla are much better at software engineering than other charger suppliers so hopefully they'll stay stable as they open up the SuC network.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,139 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    It's absolutely the Apple effect



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Well there's also the factor that when a Tesla SuC goes down there's at least another 7 chargers, so it's unlikely people are going to need to queue

    Although with all the new Model 3s around I wonder if even the superchargers are getting busy

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,994 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    In the summer time I pulled in to birdhill and within 10 minutes there were 5 cars charging. I've been at castlebellingham and seen 4 cars using them simultaneously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Wow, I've never seen more than 1 at Castlebellingham, but I haven't stopped there in a long time and there's a lot more Tesla's on the road now

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭thunderbolt


    Good to know! We’re putting an order in for an Ioniq this week and will be traveling to Mayo a lot. We usually go via Longford but would need to go via Athlone for Ionity when we switch to the Ioniq (our first EV). I assumed that it wouldn’t be that busy but looks like I’m wrong!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Rusky rusky


    The charger in frankfield is slowly becoming a taxi charging rank. One mg 5 estate 212 has left and eabother one 212 has plug in (getting 47kW). There's also an enyaq 80 just arrived (212). Last time I came there was an id.4 taxi charging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭wassie


    Im through that way once a week and never had an issue getting on Ionity Athlone and generally the eCars 150kW is pretty quiet (& there is a 50wK adjacent).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,189 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Always bound to happen at that location, despite the 2 taxi DC chargers just up the road in the airport!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Rusky rusky


    I talked to one of the drivers - he never heard about the airport chargers. Plus airport is closed, they won't go there. Rochestown is free but the new charger doesn't read the cards. Reported is twice over last two months - nothing has been fixed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭thunderbolt




  • Moderators Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    No. Ionity is perfectly located a the motorway service station on the M6. 150kW eCars is hidden around the back of a busy Kilmartins garage.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,848 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    …and don’t forget the original eCars 50kW unit is still operational in Athlone town as well as another one in nearby car park, that’s not to mention the Circle K 50kW charger that’s frequently broken nor the Audi unit very close to Kilmartins.

    we are spoilt for choice in Athlone



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