All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

Wearing masks or social distancing or similar measures during a pandemic have nothing to do with politics, it's about preventing the spread of an airborne disease. Calling it "state fascism" is hysterical nonsense. Reducing the spread of the virus reduces the number of people who catch the disease which reduces deaths from the disease.

If "something" is going on here, you should be able to articulate and demonstrate it, if you can't, and in it's place you just make vapid comments and insults, then it's completely evident to everyone you have nothing of substance to add, so there's nothing to discuss

Lol. Another adorable insult.

"King Kong Mobster". So cute.

Yeah dude, I for one, need to see the government memos detailing the conspiracy. I want to see names, dates, timelines, action plans, emails, the works.

If you're going to post a theory in a forum called "Conspiracy Theories" on some random internet board, the least you should be able to do is have access to highly classified documents from the most powerful and obtuse organisations on the planet. Otherwise, you're just a nutter.

Sorry kid, nothing personal. *Tips Fedora*

Its a post where Richie didn't mention "junta" "totalitarianism" "treason" or "facism".

Its a definite improvement. Maybe in a weeks time when he comes back he could actually answer a question?

Surely you realize that when governments become totalitarian, they don't just go on TV and tell the people, "We're gonna be bad guys now, here's the list of new draconian rules". It's done slowly and they sell each new rule as though it's for the people's own good.

Your text messages, emails, metadata everything about you has been recorded by the British and US governments, which is fine because it's keeping you safe from those nasty terrorists, and its working too, I haven't been involved in a terrorist attack since, its great.

We were literally locked down in our houses, told where we can and can't go, told what we can and can't buy and people are being punished for not taking drugs the government say they should take in some Countries.

Just look at China, recently they produced loads of new rules on what times people can play video games, how people can act on TV, banning this that and the other, but it's never about being draconian, it's always for the people's own good.

I'm not saying we're heading for a totalitarian regime, I'm just playing devils advocate here and pointing out that if it ever did happen, this is what it looks like, it will be for "our own good".

Yes pretty much.

Some things are only provable after the fact.

If you see a sketchy guy outside your house who's acting very suspiciously, checking windows etc do you call the police or not?

My reasoning is "If he looks like a burglar, and acts like a burglar, in circumstances that one might find a burglar, its at least a working theory that this guy may be a burglar and we should be accordingly cautious and call the guards".

He may be a burglar or he may not be a burglar.

I mean you've no evidence that the guy is going to break into your house. He's in the vicinity.... so? He's looking in your windows....who knows to what purpose? Maybe he's a maintenance guy? You don't have access to his texts where written evidence might be obtained so your "theory" that this guy might be up to no good is just that. A theory.

So in your reasoning on this forum, you cannot call the gardai because he's done nothing wrong. In fact, given that he hasn't entered your house just yet means you're slandering him.

And now the issue is not that there's a suspicious guy outside your house, its that you're slandering an innocent man's good name.

You and your gang basically act like noone has the right to posit the theory that this guy may be a burglar because there's no explicit proof of it. And proceed to barrage and name call anyone who holds that view.

You destroy discourse and demand the impossible. Even with the sacred "facts" from "verifiable sources" are presented to you, you ignore or silence them.

I tried to post an article from the Irish independent about a settlement between a victim of the Swine Flu vaccine and Glaxo Smith Kline and was told to "take that nonsense over to Conspiracy Theories" by the Mod.

I mean, a link to factual report on actual court events in the Irish Justice system got me warned in no uncertain terms that I'd be banned.

So ye won't accept theories and ye won't accept facts.

My question is simply this. Why?

Why is it so important to you guys that the government, Big Pharma, and Big Tech are the good guys? Why are ye acting as their foot soldiers, defending them from scrutiny, from questioning of their actions or motives? What's in it for you? You're here every day so what exactly is it you want to achieve? Dream scenario what would you like this forum to become? One where the official narrative is never questioned on anything ever? Seems like it to me but for the life of me I don't understand why.

Right, you aren't saying we're heading for a totalitarian regime, but you're line by line producing the kind of simplistic paranoid guff and lazy generalisations we endlessly hear from the likes of Gemma O'Doherty and Alex Jones.

Reality is complex, it's not some infantile black/white narrative where the "good guys are secretly bad", and when it comes to this pandemic, independent sovereign nations have made their own decisions on the best way to combat it - it's no coincidence that many have shared the same approach. It hasn't been perfect of course, mistakes have been made, a complex balance is involved, but largely we are dealing with the pandemic. Little or none of which has anything to do with your personal 1984 style musings.

What theories?

Just because you can cherry-pick some isolated case from the past or something happened during the Cold War doesn't mean some vast systematic conspiracy is occurring that no one can see except a bunch of people on the internet who can't explain what it is.

If you have something specific to say about the pandemic, spit it out and say it.

(Also just because someone doesn't subscribe to a particular world view doesn't mean they aren't critical of the government, health systems, large corporations, etc, the two aren't mutually exclusive)

I asked you before, seeing that you think you are an expert. How did your constitutional challenge go?

I’d say this question will go unanswered.

Here's what I tried to post and was told to take it over to this forum as this article is apparently "antivax nonsense".

Let's see if it stays up

What point are you trying to make?

Outside of the noise in your own head you really do not have a clue have you ?

Have you even heard of a Death Notification Form ?