Heavyweight Boxing

Fury gets hit too much. If wilder hadn't a gas tank the size of a vespa scooter he could probably beat fury. But wilders conditioning is poor. He was hitting fury at the end of the fight and had no impact.

Prime Tyson hit hard...but he hit fast. His power and speed was what made him. When he got old, he still had the power bit less speed, so he had to rely more on his power and biting technique

Lewis and Bowe are bigger than Wilder, as is Foreman.

taller is not bigger. There is more to it

Lewis and Bowe, and throw in Golota are pretty much like AJ. Few lbs here and there…

it’s the 1990s, not the 1920s..

I doubt Fury has a better diet than those in the 90's, even the 30's tbh

Just watched back the fight earlier, fury would be an nightmare for anybody in any era, the way he hits then prods the face with the forearm and leans on opponents, it would tire anybody out, not many would beat him in a dog fight and his stamina and recovery powers especially from that first knock down are exceptional. He looked like he could do 15 rounds, amazing considering his shape.

Do we have to wait till AJ and Wilder retire to appreciate them? Surely we have enough on them to assess them in an all time sense? Both very likely past their best now anyway..

Fury probably has 3/4 more fights left. And no real challenges apart from AJ and Usyk. I’d make him quite a warm favorite v Usyk, and a warm favorite against AJ.

Even if AJ were to beat/KO Fury, avenge Usyk, or Wilder to KO AJ/Usyk, pretty much they are who they are in an all time sense.

Fury could have 10 fights left. 3/4 fights could take 3/4 years the way these lads operate.

The last five fighters he faced doesn't suggest that.

He fought Pianeta, Seferi and Schwartz in that time. The serious fights were the Wilder trilogy and we'll give some credit for Wallin.

The great Hughie Fury later!!!

I should hope so at 33-1 on

When did Mike tyson get old?

He was only 29 when he knocked out Bruno to win wbc championship

He was 30 when he knocked out Bruce Sheldon to win the Wba championship. Was he too old then?

A couple of months later when he was still only 30, he fought Holyfield. Evander was 34!

Nobody can blame "old age" on Mike tyson not winning those fights . He came up against a better man, fair and square

Hammer retired with a torn bicep, the commentators were mentioning Dubois and Chisora for Hughie, don’t fancy his chances with those boys

He’s just really basic. Even a washed up Chisora should be too much for him.

Eubanks opponent was never going to be a match for him unfortunately, the southpaw aspect seemed to trouble Eubank for a while

The Holyfield odds were ridiculous. But he was seen at the time as shopworn, jaded and a bit punchy..throw in the heart condition.

Tyson and Holyfield peak to peak never happened..

fantasy wise it’s 1986-1988 Tyson vs 1990-1992 Holyfield. I’m backing Tyson.

Clearly faster, fitter and more ferocious than the 1996 version. Better defense as well. No way Evander stops this version, and if Bert Copper can badly hurt Holyfield, Mike absolutely can..and could finish it..

funny, the slightly heavier and more bulked up 1996 Holyfield probably does better vs the 1986-1988 Tyson than the 1990-1992 Holyfield. 1996 version was physically stronger.

"My point is If Ali in his early 30s with all his skills is past his best, tyson at 30 was well past his best"

Tyson was only TWENTY THREE when the very underwhelming Buster Douglas beat the living daylights out of him.

Of course the Tyson fanboys continuosly ignore that FACT.

Nobody is past their best at 23.... except 'Prime' Mike Tyson of course!

There is absolutely no honest reason for ignoring the Douglas fight, but it's like it's been airbrushed out of boxing history. Excuse after excuse after excuse.