All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

Again, the only reason debate isn't happening is because you and your fellow conspiracy theorists aren't answering questions.

You don't want to discuss your conspiracy theory. You aren't open to the possibility of being wrong.

If you are actually interested in debate, why all the constant lying and dodging?

Why post theories you know are false as if they are truth?

But the majority of restrictions have been eased and removed. The rest are planned to be removed soon.

You've failed to explain why any measures are going to be permanent. You can only make vague insinuations about a guy who's book you've never read. You keep these insinuations vague either because 1. you lack the imagination to make them more specific, or 2. you are not being honest about your beliefs because you belief in a very wacky conspiracy theory that would be off putting to most people.

So yes, again, the conspiracy theories have failed here and you and your pals are scrambling to pretend otherwise because you know the jig is up now.

This is a discussion. Your views are being challenged, and many with extreme beliefs don't like that. There is no "common ground" with falsehoods and pseudo-science. Threads are a mess because people with unreasonable views don't like facing reason. They want validation, not scrutiny.

It hasn't, and won't for a while yet.

But theres no army on the streets, no one taking our homes etc as predicted by some lunatics.

Young children can grasp many concepts about Covid and restrictions, yet some posters here are so belligerent and impervious to basic information it's hard to believe it isn't intentional. When you have posters being deliberately obtuse like that, or contrarian for the sake of it, or pushing BS that they know is BS, or are constantly making new accounts, then it's unsurprising there will be some friction.

Here's a simple challenge, point to a single user-created conspiracy on this forum that turned out to be accurate from the last 10 years. It goes without saying that when you have a forum that is so consistently full of falsehoods, there are going to be problems, the root cause of which are those falsehoods and lies.

What? Stop the riddles. For once use plain English and say what you want to say.

The thread was closed by admin, and the reasons were given. There is nothing suspicious about the reasons. Life must be hard when you see a conspiracy in everything. It must be so scary.

It's taken 240 pages to FINALLY get him to outline specific measures he believes will be permanent.

He is now deflecting from explaining why these measures will be permanent and how the benefit the people behind the conspiracy.

I'm betting we'll hit page 250 before we'll get a straight answer.

The MO

1. Fanatically believe that "something is going on"
2. Reject anything that doesn't support that, latch onto anything that does

They once called Nelson Mandela a terrorist, do you agree with that accusation?

If you were accused if a crime (no trial just accusations) would you resign from your job?

Again we keep running into this notion that the moment some one wins or is nominated for a Nobel Prize they become an enlightened figure who knows all and cannot possible be wrong. (Unless they say something against the conspiracy theory, at which point they are corrupt.)

But the OP said ALL measures.

And again, it took 230 pages for your to list those 3 measures (ie. not all of them) and you are not once again deflecting and running away from explaining why those measures will be permanent. You can't provide a rational reason for how those measures benefit the people behind the conspiracy. That's because it's not rational and it doesn't make sense. Hence your claim is false until you can provide rational motivations that stand up to a bare level of questioning.

You can't do that. You know you can't do that. Hence you dodge and run away and whinge to deflect. For some reason you think this stops people from noticing.

In addition, there are no lockdowns, so even your pared down list is incorrect.

At what point will you accept the conspiracy theory is false?

Or will it be the case that even when all of these measures are ended, you'll still claim their "permanent" because they might come back some day?

This thread has devolved into other posters having to explain basic info and reality to you. Which you don't want to accept because you have a religious style belief that "something nefarious" is going on, but you can't explain what it is. And everything goes through that nonsensical filter. If someone has an irrational belief that they are being followed, then they'll see "clues" for it everywhere.

Let's have a look at the claims in the first post:

"Social/population control measures" - No. Measures were to combat the spread of an infectious virus, many of which have been used before in previous pandemics and epidemics

The measures weren't introduced by the "state security apparatus"

"Health scare" - It's a global pandemic which has killed around 5 million people and paralysed national health systems

Measures haven't remained permanent

So yeah, it's entirely debunked.