Cork developments

I assume it is this

Student apartments development starting on North Main Street.

I walked down that direction for a closer look this afternoon and with Holy Trinity Church, The School of Comm and this new hotel all along this stretch, both Fr. Matthew and Morrison's Quays should be fully pedestrianised.

As far as I could see they both Quays are mostly accessed for parking.

Not much change planned in pedestrianisation terms, and still plenty of parking.

Took a walk past the Quay this afternoon, looks like they've started the work at the back & the interior going by the pics above.

Not a whole lot in the NDP for Cork. Same old projects reheated like Cork commuter rail - this must the the 3rd time in a year that the €185m European money for a new platform in Kent, resignalling and dual track to Midleton has been announced. Most disappointing is that there is no acceleration of the timelines in CMATS - no mention of Cork light rail other than it will continue to be funded through to design. There's a vague mention that BusConnects is expected to be largely completed by 2030!

There's nothing new in this NDP so it's disappointing that none of the major projects like CMATS are being accelerated. Climate crisis? What climate crisis.

I don't understand how these NDP announcements are regarded as news. They go in the same pile as hospital trolleys and waiting lists and housing crises - permanent news. Like the "clowns in Congress did it again" robot in The Simpsons.

ABP gave a large part of it the go ahead years ago. Not sure it's right to point the finger at the city council as the problem. It's more the government as a whole has done nothing to help progress it. No funding or progress on developing the train station or the NRR to enable it.

Demolition underway on Nth Main St

That's not the site across from the Marquee entrance is it? Those warehouses were demolished over the summer.

Found a planning application from 2000 which confirms they're former Cork Warehousing Company. Not sure what's left to consult around demolition beyond what they're going to do with the rubble... I wonder will we ever see much happen here.

Edit: Had a walk past today and there are more walls standing than I thought. I could be wrong about when the demolition happened.

Personally, I think that ten stories are a bit much for Douglas village?

Even if set back, it sets precedent for the village. The current max is 4/5 stories over by McDonalds?

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Premier Inn are well known in the UK for using old buildings. The interior is generally modern, but they do do a good job with the exterior and fitting in sympathetically.

You lost me at Douglas is a flood zone, so should be ok for high density.

Douglas and city center are the lowest points alright. Pretty much set at sea level.

Build them up on stilts! Venice of the north. :)

I know I have and I am still in favour of high rise in specific areas. I just don't believe that they are suited to everywhere. We have argued this previously and as you know I am in also in favour of retaining the character of certain areas of the city and letting the development of high rise, high density to other areas such as Tivoli docks, which has good connectivity including rail line. Mahon is also more suited to high rise and should be connected to the city centre via a tram line.

Specifically regarding Douglas and as I said personally, I think that 10 stories is too high, given the village nature of the area and the existing relatively low rise nature of the surrounds. I also think that connectivity from the village is rather poor and not suitable to high density. But then, that is only my opinion.

Given a choice between a high rise or another estate in the hinterland I'd reluctantly agree with you. It probably means that Douglas is over developed at this stage and other areas need to be looked at, particularly those on a rail line or a potential rail line.