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The Great Big Lawnmower Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    My previous recommendation for the Stihl still stands (!), it has an integral tow hitch, but in terms of mixed mulching and collection, the Honda HF2417hme would be hard to beat, with a user operated mulch lever, no need to insert and remove mulch plugs. Currently €4800 from McHaleAgri,

    https://www.mchaleagri.ie/shop/ride-on-lawnmowers/honda-hf-2417-hme/

    Towing hitch is optional accessory, can be got here for €80, or the dealer might throw it in if you haggle.

    A caveat about towing with hydrostatic drive mowers, the torque available to the wheels may be limited, and the mower may not be able to pull a heavily loaded trailer up a very steep slope. Manual geared mowers were better able for this, but ran the risk of flipping over if the clutch was chucked on a steep uphill. The hydrostatic drive just 'slips' or the wheels may spin if you overload it. Discuss this with the sales people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭coillsaille


    Much appreciated Deezell. I had a look at the Stihl alright when I saw your post about it earlier.

    Will have to read up on both this evening. As for the towing, there wouldn't be any slopes involved. We would just be moving cut firewood from the log pile across a flat yard to the woodshed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭coillsaille


    I've been looking at these two Deezell. Am I right in saying the only difference between the 6112 and 5112 is that the first one has cruise control?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    There might be a few extra features on the dash, cruise control, hour meter. I notice on the spec the 6 is a cm taller, so it might have the wider tyres. Have a search for the brochure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    Here's the user manual for 5097. 5112,6112 and 6127

    5112 doesn't have the digital display, cruise control, blade engagement button etc. It has a blade engagement switch. It doesn't have a beeps and warning sounds of the electronic dash on the 6112. It has smaller tyres than the 6112, which has the bigger balloon type tyres like the 6127. Otherwise identical.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭coillsaille


    That makes more sense alright. I was thinking the price difference was quite big just for cruise control! Thanks again Deezell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭Tony H


    need to find out the model number of my mccullough self propelled lawn mower , the only id on it is this ,it starts and cuts out straight away , it probably needs a new gasket but I need to know what to look for first .





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    Thats probably a fairly generic Chinese engine, used in a lot of pattern lawnmowers. Does it resemble this?

    There's some exploded diagrams here, although clicking on parts listed states "Husqvarna stopped supplying this"

    This looks like a better parts list on a pdf.

    https://www.mcculloch.com/tdrdownload//pub000074302/doc000127420

    I wouldn't think its a head gasket problem though, if it starts then it has sufficient compression. Head gasket leak would be the opposite, very difficult to start but might run once started. It sounds like a fuel problem, just enough to fire for the first few slow revs, but not enough to run, carb bowel runs dry. Check the bowl for dirt, check the float valve, check flow from the tank hose. Also check the crankcase breather hose has not came off, I've just remembered sorting these symptoms on an older McCullogh mower a couple of years ago. Hose was split and loose.

    Post edited by deezell on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭Tony H


    thanks for that , the boss(wife) bought it a couple of years ago and she went for that one despite the fact that they had one with a honda engine for more or less the same money , anyway its probably the carb all right , I cleaned out the bowl , it was full of muck , but it probably need a full strip down and clean out , i might chance it now that i have the exploded diagram , thanks for the quick help .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    If the Boss reads your reply, you might also need one of these to sleep in....




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Manta400r


    Hey folks,

    Ive a large garden, about 2/3rds of an acre to mow. Relatively flat, just a slight incline on one side. My current ride on is a husqvarna cth172 which I bought if the old owner of the house when we bought it. I've replaced belts, blades, carb, full bag switch, repaired deck and replaced some pulleys and done a full service but it's still a bit contrary from time to time but overall a good mower. It has a kohler courage engine which I believe is 17hp


    Anyways I'm thinking of buying a new mower, don't want an automower so was looking in particular at the stiga range. Either a 2084h or 3084h - don't want a geared tractor it has to be hydrostatic that's my main thing


    Has anyone any info on the mowers or any recommendations? Even better anyone sell them and take trade ins lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    You'll sell that old mower for resonable money next season if it's starting and working well, and not falling apart. You'll get a best price on any of the mowers you're thinking about for a straight sale. If you can, do a deal on the new over the new year, then sell your own for cash in spring. It's a big mower, 42" cut, should be worth 500-800 depending on condition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Manta400r


    Thanks,


    Yeah its a good mower in fairness, the only reason I want to go for a new one is simply because it'll be mine from the word go and I can be sure all maintenance will be done properly and on time. But since getting the Husqvarna I've done alot with it, the old owner had it wrecked. Nothing wrong with it now other than a small hole on the lid of the rear collector



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Musefan


    Hi. I’d love some recommendations for a decent key start mower for a relative. They’ve quite a few muscular issues so something without a pull cord is necessary. They’ve a small garden but they won’t entertain the idea of an electric mower & they like the Briggs and Stratton engine. Budget is between 500 and 600 euro. I see woodies have one for 399 but (pro lawn) but I’m unsure about how good that brand is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    The woodies is a generic Hyundai mower afaik, similar to this blue Hyundai HYM510SPE which used to be in a few hardware stores like goodwins, though I've not seen it for a while.

    The woodies one won't break the bank, and as long as you keep the battery charged it should function without issue, but if the electrics give issues your stuck if there's no pull cord. It's quite a heavy mower also so quite a bit of effort required when lugging it around corners and obstacles.

    This aluminium deck electric start Cobra uses the Briggs and Stratton Instant electric starter with the detachable power tool type battery. https://www.lawnmowerworld.ie/product/premium-grade-cobra-mx515spbi-20-aluminium-deck-with-briggs-stratton-instart-engine/

    It's much more dependable than older fixed battery systems, bring the battery in and stick it on the charger. A bit over your budget though, as is this Stiga electric start with the same B&S engine. https://www.stiga.ie/products/stiga-twinclip-55-seqb-instant-battery-start-twinclip-55seqb.html

    These mowers are all too much for a small garden, the ideal solution is surely one of the better cordless mowers on the market, there are some robust models here starting at €399 for 16" cut.

    https://www.lawnmowerworld.ie/product-category/battery-lawnmowers/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    Has anyone seen any Black Friday deals on robot lawnmowers? I am looking for something for about 120m2 of a rectangular fenced garden, minimal obstacles or hills, ideally controllable via an app?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    I see a few people using agrieuro.co.uk or .com preferrably in this thread. Is there a general consensus that these are ok to use? i.e. goods undamaged, delivered relatively quickly, easy to deal with if problems etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 smithymk11


    Hi


    I have a 2000 sq metre lawn mostly flat and no tree's beds etc

    I have been looking at two mowers a stihl 650 v or a weibang shaft driven model both are around the same money the lawn is new and any mower I have borrowed had been very poor to pick up the thick grass especially if damp .


    I was also looking at second hand ride on mowers but nor sure its needed


    Any advice on either of the above two mowers would be greatly appreciated



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    Poor pickup is most likely down to cutting too low when the lawn is overgrown. This is likely to happen if you have to borrow, as you will wait till it's quite high. When you have your own mower, you will be able to mow more frequently, but if it gets overgrown due to bad weather, away on holidays etc, you'll need to mow once at a higher setting to take it down, then go around it again at your preferred height. Tedious enough if your 2000m2/ half acre is all grass. In that respect I'd suggest a wider cut than the 19" 650v, you need a 655c model, or any larger 21 " cut self propelled. The shaft drive Weibang sounds attractive, as some mower self propelled mechanisms, especially with variable speed, are not particularly long lived. This is less an issue on a plain flat unobstructed site. I've had to repair/rebuild replace even the power drive of every mower I've ever owned, usually after only 3 + years of ownership, due to lots if start stop, slopes, trees, beds etc. Shaft drive sounds like a lifetime job.

    Consider the models you've viewed, plus the top Stiga 55 svh and mid range Honda models also.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 smithymk11


    Hi

    Thanks for the reply

    Yes that was indeed the probelm I was borrowing it every 2 weeks and of course trying to cut it as short as I could as we where trying to get other bits done when we first moved in

    So this year I am going to but a good mower and cut it regularly

    I have looked at the hondas but there around the 1250e mark where the weibang is e850.

    I have also looked at the viking/stihl ride on the 17.5 hp model second had but my knowledge is very limited and thought running and repair cost might make it a waste of time with that size of a garden



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    This Honda is in range of your budget, an extremely robust and reliable mower. Probably it's only shortcoming is the individual wheel height adjustment instead of single lever, but this does have the advantage that the mower stays perfectly flat as the years go by, some single lever systems wear and introduce tilt as they get old. It has a mulch lever, allowing you to quickly change from bagging on light growth to get the benefit of self fertilisation on poorer growing patches.

    https://monaghanhire.com/products/honda-izy-hrg-536c9-vkeh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    I've a husqvarna cth 174 that I bought new in 2015.

    It's hydrostatic which was a godsend for the little bit extra that it cost. Lawn has gotten bigger as I've build my own house before the parents so I'm thinking about changing to something wider and faster.

    I saw a stiga 52 inch on done deal, about 6k.

    I think i looked at a yellow hustler zero turn when I bought the husky but it was too big at the time.

    I'd probably be able to justify the cost if I got a few other large lawns needing cutting here and there, if I got a few hundred over the year it would take the sting out of the cost.

    I've van and trailer on the road a good bit already so transport wouldn't be any issue.

    Also, has anyone a link to measure the garden size?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    On a PC;

    To measure an area on Google Maps, right-click on the map at your starting point and choose the Measure distance option. Add points around the location's boundary. Once you close the shape by clicking on the starting point, the Google Maps area calculator will automatically process the area of your shape.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    Thanks for that, I found an app, called fields area measure. I've 3500 metres square to mow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    That's about .9 of an acre. If you want a collector mower rather than a commercial zero turn, you won't do better than this top sized Stihl 6127 zl , huge 49" cut, powerful and quiet V twin engine. This mower was formerly the Viking 6127, very robust build quality, large tyres, it used to sell at over €6k, so this price here, €4950 brand new, is a great deal.

    Stihl RT 6127 ZL 49" Ride On Mower https://g.co/kgs/HFmzvv

    or here in Cavan, €5k

    https://donegan.ie/product/stihl-rt-6127-zl



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭shane b


    Hi. im in the market for a lawnmower and have a budget of 600 ish euros. I want a mower that mulch and bag. I have seen Weibangs in that bracket and an Oleo-mac. Some of the Weibangs come with a Kohler engine or a Loncin engine, while the Oleo-mac comes with an Emak engine.

    I know Oleo-mac have a small dealership here but my family have had eleo-mac equipment in the past and found i good.

    My query is how reliable are the Loncin or Emak engines and what is parts availaibility like for either in ireland?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    Both engines are produced in China, there's a good chance that most of the parts are pattern or generic, so easily obtained. Loncin (aka LongXin) are a vast Chinese automotive manufacturer, (Is there any other kind?). Emac are a Chinese import export conglomerate, engines could be made anywhere, with any amount of clones. Read their website caption below without laughing. I plomise you won't contain yourself.


    Like anything, it's the last stage manufacturer (Weibang etc,) who impose the quality control to their standards for their mowers. Same engine with less tolerance might appear on a cheapo mower in big box shops. Apple make some of their iPhones in India, in what looks little better than female refugee camps, country of origin doesn't dictate quality, only price and profit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    there's alot of play on my ride on's steering...and it won't lock to the right..what needs to be done??

    castelgarden twincut



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭deezell


    You can adjust the length of the steering rod that goes to the left hand kingpin crank lever, so that when both wheels are directly forward, the steering wheel is in the centre. However, if you have severe play, you also need to check for play in the 4 small ball joints, two each end of the steering rod and two more each end of the track rod between the wheel kingpins.

    Another source of play is the kingpins themselves, especially if the mower has struck a solid surface occasionally. The front axle kingpin bushings and the pressed steel housing can crack and cause the bushings to move out and get loose.

    Another source of severe play due to wear is the front axle pivot bolt pin under the engine. The axle steel rotates on this without the benefit of a solid bushing, eventually the axle holes enlarge and the pin gets heavily grooved.

    Grab the axle either side and rock it left right. Also grab the front wheel axles and push and pull them fore and aft, see does the wheel move back and forward relative to the chassis. You may have to buy a complete front axle, bolt and spacer, and 4 track rod balljoints, to restore that new feeling. I had to do this a long time ago after the mower was 'joyridden' by a careless young operator, hit a few trees. I got fed up welding the cracks ,they just kept reappearing, and the centre pivot was very worn. This is the best price I can find, about €107 including delivery.

    https://eurosmallengineparts.ie/castelgarden-mountfield-stiga-alpina-102-122-front-axle-382034001-3



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Hi All,

    Wonder if i could ask the experts on the forum for some advice on a decent mower for my land as my old one has died and i really need to get something new.

    My budget is roughly around 1K max of around 1.5K, the grass area im looking to cut is around 820m2. The surface area itself is a little bit rugged with some dips and uneven ground, part of its also a fence in area which im half thinking of getting a automatic mower for.

    Appreciate any advice on what might suit me.

    Thanks

    Cal



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