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The Great Big Lawnmower Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    This Honda engined Castelgarden variable speed on sale at €710 will eat the rough stuff,

    https://www.toolfix.ie/p/castelgarden-xs55hvw4-21-cut-self-drive-lawnmower/xs55hvw4

    then haggle with your remaining €800 for a good robotic machine for the inner circle. You'll never be stuck with both, and if you tame the outer area with the CG, you could let the robot loose on it when its short, light and dry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Thank you very much, i actually measured wrong missed out on a grass patch, all in its around 1682m2, its a half acre of land the house is on and split up hence my mistake. Its why we also fenced off an area. Would the Honda still be a good recommended machine for it?

    Thank you

    Cal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    It would be perfect, it's recommended area is 2000m2, roughly a half acre, so your grass area is what's left after house and drive of 320m2 are subtracted. It has three features that will help cope with rougher areas, a decent top cut height of 8.5 cm, variable speed to take it slower, and that Honda GCVx 170 engine. My previous gaff was a standard bungalow bliss on a half acre, the Stiga55, an early variant of this mower with a B&S engine was ideal size, good exercise. You'll walk over 3km to mow 1600m2 with a .53m cut. If you want a bigger cut, there are a few 55cm out there, and the huge twin bladed Toro timemaster, but you're better with more power and walking speed to get the job done quicker. You can easily spend 1000-1500 on some heavier semi commercial machines, or premium brand names such as Honda, Stihl, Husqvarna, Weibang etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Thank you very much i appreciate the advice, i think i will go with this for now as my last mower was like a 10 year old viking that broke down as i pushed it a bit to hard. I also am not a fan of grass cutting so i dont want to spend a large sum and not do it justice.

    I will try and get this mower and a robo mower for the smaller area which will get a good return on it.

    Thank you again.

    Cal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Apologies, one last query are Weibang any good, only reason i ask is the local town has a place that specialize in them. They also sell the robotic mowers, so i was thinking i could get a deal if they were anyway decent.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    Weibang are highly regarded machines with a full range of domestic, commercial and professional models. They are a Chinese brand, and use Loncin engines, but have earned a reputation for sturdy build and quality. Many models have a shaft driven self propulsion mechanism, which is more robust than the direct belt drive of most domestic mowers and will weather rough handling better. Construction is less elaborate and non plasticy than many Chinese generics you would find in big stores. The quality of the wheels and axles would be superior. Go have a look, this model is a very sturdy all rounder which might last 20 years with care. https://monaghanhire.com/collections/push-lawnmowers/products/weibang-wb506scv-3in1-pro-professional-range

    196CC eng8ne should have all the power you need. Definitely do a bit of tyre kicking, literally, in the showroom. I've a small reservation on the advertised cut max height of 7cm, on rougher ground you might need more clearance. I think someone wrote here that this is perhaps a trend or safety directive to try and prevent dopes sticking their foot under the edge. We'll always have them, and they will find a way to lose body parts with machines. Anyway, it can be an issue, it was for me when I replaced the 20 year old Stiga with a Cobra, I had to redrill the deck and reposition the height rack to gain an extra couple of cm clearance. Pay your guy a visit and do the deal.



  • Posts: 317 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have a weibang 537 shaft drive mower and have only good things to say about it, its an excellent machine for cutting in regular conditions but I bought it as I have a large area where I let the grass grow long and last year only cut this area twice. The weibang was faultless, plenty of engine power to cut the long grass and power the shaft drive never once did it struggle but I did cut the long grass when dry and use the side chute to disperse it. Its a brilliant machine, very well built, excellent value for money etc but its a very heavy mower i think about 50kgs so its a 2 man lift if ever you need to transport it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Thank you both, thats great to hear as one of the advantages if i did go with them is the local place is also a service centre. My worry was as its an unknown brand to me that service and part replacement might have been an issue.



  • Posts: 317 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I asked into that when I bought mine and all parts were available off the shelf, the guy showed me into the workshop and it looked to me like everything needed was readily available



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    Parts are only an issue with some of those generic big store models. Try getting a head gasket for something that came from Woodies, like a ROK pressure sprayer. Days of detective work to identify the engine. Weibang are distributed by Camsaw, a real warehouse in Portarlington business park, not far from another favourite place of mine. TVtrade.ie, or Freetv.ie as they are now known.

    BTW, the pro version of the 537 is only 40kg, the Castelgarden 39kg, but the domestic 537 a whopping 50kg as stated.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,032 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    the only problem with my weibang shaft drive mower is the paint peeling on the underside of the deck and the speed controller mechanism seizing just needs some wd40 after a cut otherwise it's been great .

    Post edited by ednwireland on

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  • Posts: 317 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Second that for Camsaw,they are great to deal with, anything from Stihl,Weibang or Oleo Mac they have it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147


    Hi. Anyone know where this cable is meant to be connected? The black cable at the top? Ride on mower laying up for few years noticed cable loose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭kieran26


    Hi, have a large area of lawn and my old cheap mower packed up and was wondering does anyone have any opinion on Stihl machines, i have my eye on on this one, Alluminium deck is something i'm keen on.

    https://www.donegan.ie/product/stihl-rm655.0v?gclid=Cj0KCQiArt6PBhCoARIsAMF5waiC3a0hzneAZDPTZ5WuXbGmm8SC6p_yJVJMqQB9IkYmQ2wuqGbdiqsaAtPsEALw_wcB



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    There are two black cables in your photo, one connected to the green multiplug, the other one on the bottom of the image just runs off the frame. Where is the wire you refer to on the top of the picture? Make of the mower also might help, image of dashboard, but its likely a black wire would be going to a chassis terminal, or providing battery negative to a switch or device, perhaps an electric clutch pull switch. Or the starter solenoid



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭shane b


    Dont have any opinion on Stihl machines but as someone who went from a 21 inch steel deck mower to an aluminium one, something to watch is the weight difference. The aluminium one i have now is not as easy to manoeuvre as the steel one i had. The Sthil you linked is 46 kg which is heavy to move around or if you need to load it into a car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147


    Hi, yea it's the black wire at the top connected to green switch, it's just laying loose on engine bay, it's an older cstlegarden twin plus cut ride on mower. The loose end of the cable is grey colour




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭kieran26


    Cheers, Ya it is heavy but anytime i've had a steel deck its started to rust through after 4-5 years. I'm open to recommendations for alternatives all the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    That looks like a bit of home brew wiring going on from the connector, I see what looks like a length of mains brown and blue flex in a white outer leaving it. That grey cable could be the pair up to the front headlamps? Or possibly from the rectifier ( these mowers charge the battery from a pickup coil). The headlight cable is very insecure on those mowers, always hanging off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    Premium brand, formerly Viking mowers. Very solid. Also consider Weibang Alum deck mower, this supplier priced at €777, well below the €919 listed elsewhere.

    https://martynlawns.com/product/weibang-wb536sklalv-aluminium-deck/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭Zverklez


    I'm completely new to lawnmowers and a small bit lost after just moving to a house with about 750m2 of lawn. My immediate thought was to just go and buy a simple lawnmower like the option below from Woodies, but it looks like I will possibly need to up the budget to cover this kind of area.

    https://www.woodies.ie/pro-lawn-46cm-139cc-hyundai-self-propelled-petrol-lawnmower-1153279

    Considering I would have good access to an electrical point, would a corded electric be any use? They seem to only come in small cutting diameters and lower powers (<1.5kw)

    I would like to avoid a ride-on if at all possible due to budget and issues with access and a divet. Is it unrealistic to think I can spend <€600-700 for an area this big? Any suggestions welcome!


    Edit: Would this essentially be the woodies option except better for quality / availability of parts? https://www.doyles.ie/products/stiga-combi-55sq-st170-ohv-166cc-4in1-combi-55sq.html

    Post edited by Zverklez on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    The Stiga is in a different class. Bigger cut, bigger engine than the 46cm woodies generic, better build and with the distribution network of Doyles behind them. Ring some of the dealers listed on Doyles site (they don't sell direct), see can you get a price better than the list. It's well priced for brand mower with a 53cm cut, the engine is Stiga's own.

    Closer to your budget max, you might like this Husqvarna 53cm. It has a well proven Briggs and Stratton 650exi series engine, and a solid composite deck, meaning no rust, and deft handling due to its light 32kg weight. I was most impressed by this as an alternative to alloy deck, handles, wheels, cables were of high quality also.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    You might also consider this 51cm Cobra cordless, one of the biggest I've seen, in Brodericks in Kilpedder. It might mow your plot on a single charge.

    https://www.lawnmowerworld.ie/product/cobra-mx51s80v-battery-21-lawnmower/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147


    Post edited by buzzing147 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147


    i just checked again and that black wire seems to be going into dash by key area, not onto the green switch. Not sure where its meant be connected to. There's already a long loose grey wire beside lights so isnt the lights wire, grey cable at end of black going onto that wee switch



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    I can think of two things it might be going from memory, its been a good few years since I peered into my long gone TC102. Depending on the engine, it might have an oil pressure switch, though I don't recall one on my V twin engine. What I do recall though was an innocent looking ground wire which push fitted onto a tag on the engine block. This seemed to act as a ground for all the interlock switches which would kill the engine if you if you triggered them without cutting off the blade drive. E.g., if you sat up off the seat, or tilted the grass box with the deck still running, the engine dies. One day I noticed this not happening, and discovered a single uncoupled cable close to a terminal tag on the engine block. Pushing it back on restored the interlock. Pulling it off allowed engagement of the blade while not in the seat, dodgy, but useful for fault finding deck noises and belt problems. Also useful for cutting without the bag and spreading the grass behind. This was in my 1998 TC102, manual deck belt clutch. I doubt if there's much difference in subsequent years, though models with electric clutch will just release the clutch rather than cut the engine when an interlock switch is closed. There are no color coded schematic of the wiring, I never found one before, only this generic electrical layout in the parts list.

    Screenshot_20220201-120834_Drive.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147


    Thanks for info, yea it's a tcp122, twin cut plus, 1997, old mower but deciding to get it going again. Laying up good few years, I'll eventually figure out where wire meant to go!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    Here's something that will help. I dug up some older manuals I had for tc102, 1999. There's full wiring diagram with color coding. Page 51 for the 16hp manual transmission, 54 for hydrostatic, and page 44 or 46 for electrical parts layout. Download below. Should be identical to 1997, but I know where to dig for that. If its any different, I'll post it.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W4V-6Wy5MM7HaHYQRdsy4_Rypm_r6Yzj/view?usp=drivesdk



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭Zverklez



    Thanks for the recommendations. The "boss" has told me to revise my budget down. After browsing this thread I have come across Agrieuro. There seems to be a lot of €300-400 options with all of the features I want, albeit with the unknown engine manufacturers from China. Some appear to be relatively large / powerful engines - in my mind this means less strain on the engine which may help with longevity? E.g. 224cc engine on a 51cm cutting width for €340

    Moving to a B&S engine seems to add €100 or drop the cutting width to 46cm, Honda engine moves it up towards 500-600. Domestic retailers seem to be competitive when compared with Agrieuro in this instance

    https://www.agrieuro.co.uk/geotech-s46-140-bmsgw-self-propelled-petrol-lawn-mower-bs-500e-engine-140-cc-4-in-1-p-16509.html


    https://www.agrieuro.co.uk/geotech-s46-140-bmsgw-self-propelled-petrol-lawn-mower-bs-500e-engine-140-cc-4-in-1-p-16509.html

    Similar setup with a smaller engine closer to home for €379

    https://www.woodies.ie/pro-lawn-46cm-self-propelled-petrol-lawnmower

    Overall - decisions to be made! I think I might be trying to save 100-200 in the wrong place.



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