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Squid Game [Netflix] [** SPOILERS **]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭OptimusTractor


    Watch this yesterday. It's entertaining but a lot of reviews go into hyperbole with stuff likes it's hard to get through the violence. The VIPS were a terrible addition almost like there couldn't be any bad guys unless some where white. The cop side story was a bit anticlimactic. The arse was dragged out of the last 2 episodes they could have been combined. I don't think this needs a season 2.



  • Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭terminator74


    I really enjoyed this show. I haven't sat down and binged watched a series in a while so this drew me in straight away. Well made, stylized and engaging throughout (as everyone has pointed out the VIP scene is painfully acted). Would definitely welcome a prequel or sequel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    I watched the first episode, and granted it was late and I was tired but I wasn't bowled over - just a bunch of people being shot? Does it get better? If it's a whole series of relentless violence then maybe I'm not gonna be into it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Im halfway through the series - Brilliant show!! Watch it without the dubbing. It will encourage you to watch without a phone in your hand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    It's certainly advertised as a tv show battle royale in the trailers but to answer your question

    Yes. There's more to it than people being shot.. definitely the exploraion of the second episode starts the extra stuff

    but there's still a lot of the violence /shooting too.. because it's a battle royale type thing

    might be the first episode is like a filter about the violence.. as there's a lot of it



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I found that it only really go compelling about 2 and 1/2 episodes in.

    Persevere until then.

    Then it's pretty decent.

    Probably will suffer from "Prison Break" syndrome as far as subsequent series go, where the success of this type of show which very much effectively works best as a one series effort gets shoe-horned into a multi-season cluster-mess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Unless you have reading difficulties you should always watch a show with original soundtrack and subtitles as you get the original acting and emotion and not another version/interpreation and you also the lips sync correctly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Would people regard watching 2.5 episodes of a show as persevering?Judging an entire series on that is not enough. Also E2 was very unexpected to me and set up the context of the whole series for me.

    Even saying E1 was just about people getting shot is totally wrong imho.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Very enjoyable except for the VIPs. Absolutely awful when they were in it - cringe inducing.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I meant that it doesn't starts to really grab you until then.

    And I said nothing about Ep 1 just being about people being shot so that's conflating two separate points.

    And yes completely with the massive choice these days with literally 1000's of shows out there, getting to the second half of the third episode would be a commitment for a lot of people

    Many will give up if the first episode or two don't hook them in because there are so so many other shows out there to go instead if it hasn't appealed.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The VIP's were obvious caricatures of vile self-absorbed people meant to repel and repulse the audience, make them wince and cringe even.

    It was hardly going to be Nelson Mandela and Gandhi paying for this sort of messed-up spectacle was it?

    No, it was going to be a group of filthy rich, self-absorbed and depraved assholes like they were.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    But wasn't that the point? They were awful people who would be the type to support an event like that. You'd hardly expect nice people to be at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Yes but so many shows are slow burners.

    But you are right, so many people don't watch Better Call Saul because the first few episodes were slow and not like Breaking Bad and then so many people missed out on one of the best shows on TV in the last 5 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    I was more cringing at their terrible acting. Absolutely atrocious.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Can’t do dubbing - a Korean lad with an Arkansas accent is strange . Subtitles for me



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    how could you tell?!

    except for about 1 minute for that fat gay lad hoping to get his rocks off they all had masks on all the time!

    they were deliberate caricature obnoxious fookers as was intended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Really don't agree with that at all.

    They were fine, played obnoxious people with masks on so made it hard to tell how good or bad their acting was and also their screentime was quiet small



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So anyone figure out the rules to the Squid Game itself? He was explaining them then it just seemed to turn into a fight. It was one of a few games I'd never seen before but the rest were easier to understand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    I think a bit like Sumo wrestling, in the original game the aim for the attacker is to step foot inside the 'squid's head' - they can only hop on one foot until they break through the centre of the squid's body [the double line in the centre] then they can use both feet - the defenders must force them back, if they push them outside the squid they die - as this was an actual to the death game with an anything goes rule [once Seong Gi had broke through and could now use both feet] that bit kinda went out the window, it was kill anyway possible .... I think

    As for the VIP acting, thing to remember is this was originally aimed at the Korean/Asian market, to them over acting seems the norm, either way we weren't supposed to like them in any way so it's fitting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    I enjoyed it overall but there were a couple of things that jarred a bit. The cop storyline was a bit anticlimactic especially when we didn't get any explanation as to how or why the front man became who he is.

    Also Gi-Hun being summoned to meet the creator just because he hadn't spent his money and just in time for him to watch his death seemed a bit forced.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭BeginAgain


    Here you go


    On the point of non Korean actors in Korean productions the standard of acting is pretty low. Most have day jobs and usually have very minor bit part roles like American soldier or nodding western business man like the actor who plays the fat guy. Ability to understand Korean instruction seems the main requirement when casting.

    But something also grates when switching between Korean and English speaking actors in Korean productions imo. Korean directors seem to favour a mid Atlantic western twang for seemingly every English speaking role. Maybe connected with the American English they often teach in Korea. The directors want the audience to understand the English speaker so they sound more like a language class comprehension tape than acting. The end result is epic wooden acting even if they are trained professionals. Same problem crops up in Chinese and Japanese productions catering mainly for a domestic audience.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Also Gi-Hun being summoned to meet the creator just because he hadn't spent his money and just in time for him to watch his death seemed a bit forced.

    That was just there for anyone who hadn't figured out that the old guy was the creator and to make people who had figured it out feel smart.

    It was really about the old guy just wanting to let Gi-Hun know that he had felt alive again by playing the game.

    Anything about spending the money or not is incidental.



  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭BeginAgain




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There are probably not a lot of great Korean-born actors over in the UK and Ireland either.

    I think that too big a deal is being made of this - they have very tiny parts in the context of the 9 episodes, parts so small that they don't provide scope for nuanced character development as they are just designed to be "the homogenous group of assholes".

    If anyone has an issue with that then it's something against the script for just having a very small "group depiction" far more than the actors they got.

    Except for a brief moment in the case of one we never see any of their faces and the whole haughty obnoxious tone is very deliberate and what the show was going for.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭ozmo


    Also - Gi-Hun made a bet with him, about the guy in the street - that he actually won - seeing the wager GiHun placed was for "for Everything" - I thought he was going to inherit the Squid Games - Chocolate Factory style... lol.

    “Roll it back”



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Seems like subtitles aren't great either

    https://www.facebook.com/todayonline/videos/288598486440607/



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I heard this being spoken of in the same breath as 'Alice in Borderland', which I'm persevering through at the minute..

    Maybe I'm just 'korean series about some deadly game..'d out, but AiB just seems like a pile of sh1te tbh..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭Zak Flaps


    Yes keep going. I didn't really like the first episode. But thought the second and third were much better which kept me watching the whole series.

    Overall I liked it. Nothing too original but pretty good entertainment. I was surprised how moving it was at times.

    It's too successful not to have a second series.

    Hopefully there will be no VIPs in that one!!!! Worst dialogue I've heard in a long time!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Really enjoyed this, very clever! Superb acting, I bet there are some theatre actors mixed in there. I enjoyed Gi-Hun's childlike wonder and approach. Hedonic adaptation. I hope there is a sequel, it is certainly teed up for one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    I can understand the criticisms tbh. The first 6 episodes were pitch perfect and then suddenly these VIP characters cheapened things. Their screen time wasn't limited enough to be negligible.

    They were given more dialogue than was needed to hold the suspense built up in the previous 6 episodes and the dialogue they were given was trash. It sounded like the drunken boasts of college students with their parents credit card.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I think the show was aimed at the korean market. They couldn't have foreseen the interest internationally so not much thought went into the english speaking parts or the english dubbing/subtitles



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    One of the best Netflix series ever imho.

    Amazing. Would love if they make a good go of season 2 ... will be tough tho...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I was discussing this series with my son in law while driving through town the other day. He asked did I watch it dubbed or subtitled. Well, I nearly threw him out of the car!

    Re the debate over the VIPs, perhaps those who watched it dubbed could answer if the Americans came across as wooden as they did in the subbed version.

    It may be that the contrast against the very expressive Korean dialect highlighted the blandness of a generic Texas accent.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lee Jung-jae apparently normally plays bad guys in his movies (mad to think)

    And it was Jung Ho-yeon first acting gig which is quite impressive.

    But does anyone know how we got to 17 contestants after marbles, was. It an over sight I didn't watch it back so maybe I missed something and haven't found anything online



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    So there were 33 people left at start. That's 16 matches. 16 winners and 16 losers totalling 32. The one over was Han Mi-nyeo  who was seen being taken away and then showed to have been kept alive so she brought total up to 17.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ahhhh **** I had it in my head it was 39 the whole time whoops

    Well that solves that mystery :)

    Cheers



  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭BeginAgain


    I wouldn't say he normally plays bad, with his looks he plays a mix. His movie New World is worth watching.

    Park Hae-soo drama "Prison Playbook" is good for a laugh. It was his big break main role. Not sure if still available on Netflix Ireland. And later this year he plays Berlin in the Netflix Korea remake of "House of Paper".

    Jung Ho-yeon has a decision to make. She can remain in Korea and easily become the next Jun Ji-hyun or with her English skills from international modelling can try the Hollywood route.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    The VIPs were speaking in English. They hardly redubbed them did they?


    edit actually misunderstood your point. Didn't watch it dubbed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,343 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I wonder if the director speaks English, or understands English to such a degree that he could tell the lines were poorly written and forced.



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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah fair enough I just saw it mentioned when they were on the Jimmy fallon show he must have been too nice to pull him up on it.

    Given the popularity of the show one would think she would go for it in Hollywood alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Binged it yesterday and my own thoughts on links between characters and such were well borne out.

    It is a solid well made show, but it is quite formulaic. If I had to give a quick synopsis? It's the hunger games crossed with bum fights for the entertainment of the rich rather than governments and an added focus albeit belatedly on survivor guilt.

    I'll certainly watch a season 2 and hope that it ties up what I feel are big loose ends.

    Post edited by banie01 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    How the feck do you do spoilers on this horrible new forum?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Click the quote button. It is one of the options - on phone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Well it just quotes your post on desktop version, this is bizarre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    How can I...? A user's guide to the new site — boards.ie - Now Ye're Talkin'

    On desktop, click that paragraph icon (like a reverse P) beside the comment box, then click the quote icon. You'll see the spoiler button then



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Got it now thanks.

    Anyway:

    So was 001 willing to die in tug of war or what's the story? Bit of a minor plot hole there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭Zak Flaps


    Think he was confident of winning it as he knew the skills of that game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,521 ✭✭✭cozar


    he had no lock on the shackles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    finished it last night, very enjoyable show.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    There were actually 39 at the start, 40 from the tug-o-war and -1 for the doctor. The 16 coming back from the marbles is incorrect unless 3 pairs didn't finish the game in time and all 6 died but they didn't show that.



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