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Civil Servant Covid Recognition

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Economics101


    @Loueze: I have nothing but respect for public servants who worked under difficult circumstances and who are not demanding more money, of holidays. In all sorts of ways whether related to our jobs or other aspects we were "all in this together". In that case we can't all compensate one another.



  • Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sailed merrily on in terms of employment and pay?

    Did you miss all the emergency financial measures, pension levies etc, after the Celtic Tiger collapse, or did I just imagine the huge drop in my income?



  • Posts: 14,769 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Were you ever at risk of losing your job, and do you think many in the private sector suffered drop in wages? Yet we don’t keep bleating about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭BobHopeless


    Pay the people who worked on the covid wards/emergency rooms etc.. a 500 euro bonus and stop this one for everyone in the audience nonsense.



  • Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes, I was, because I literally was earning about €40 a week less than I would have received in benefits at the time. I had to decide whether to stick or quit, but I was thinking of the long term game, so I stuck with it. (More fool me, I think sometimes).

    And please, the private sector never stop bleating on about it!!! That's how most of these type of threads start.

    As someone else said, if anyone in the private sector thinks the grass is so much greener on the public sector side, then come join the ranks of the civil and public service. You'll be in for a rude awakening.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Did you think maternity services would be cancelled?


    You're example tells us nothing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    If that were true ,unions would have been banging fists on tables long ago



  • Posts: 14,769 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Loueze, deciding voluntarily to leave your job for a better paid one is not, nor has it ever been the same as having your employment terminated involuntarily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,747 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    We have all already got out post pandemic bonuses. We’re all still alive!! Give this extra money to Pepperoni Zapponne.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx




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  • Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Staff were willing to do it

    who do you think put through your pup payments and answered Covid helplines... The tooth fairy😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I'm a healthcare assistant,I don't know if I stand to gain from any of this and I'm not arsed.

    This whole idea is divisive and unworkable.Some estimates of over a billion euro.....remember when a billion euro was a lot of money and would (nearly)build you a children's hospital?

    This whole bonus thing is mental stuff and now they can't put the genie back in the bottle.I think it will really back fire on them and won't create the feel good vibes they wanted.The whole thing is dumb on so many levels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭LillySV


    so you agree your empty hospital statement is nonsense then… thanks for agreeing with me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Of course it's dumb and comes from FFG trying to buy votes, however Leo on RTE now saying my work was 'heroic' and that McGrath is currently working on how this should be rewarded so bring it on.



  • Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My antenna is just fine, thank you.

    I was working so many hours because it was an extraordinary situation, one I hope will end soon, and hope to never see again in my lifetime. If I didn't work them, others (ironically, in the private sector) would have been put under added stress.

    I don't know where you pick up the attitude that I am looking for bonuses or compensation for the extra time. I specifically stated I am not. I'm simply asking for less disrespect, towards a large group who were working as hard, sometimes harder and often with extra challenges, during the pandemic.

    While job security in the public sector is good, it is not what it once was. (Probably since around 1995!). There era of "jobs for life" is long gone, another myth the private sector like to make around the public one.

    And while you seem to think the public sector is insulated, it is not. We may not have had direct job losses or loss of earnings during the pandemic, but I guarantee you we will end up paying for it in terms of indirect cuts, "emergency financial measures" , embargos on recruitment, retirees not replaced, vacancies not filled, or other measures that will follow afterwards.

    I can't really speak for what the private sector feel, only give my impression that they seem to begrudge every-single-thing about the terms and conditions of the public sector - except for the pay rates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Anyone that lost their jobs got compensated to the tune of up to €350 on PUP and will continue to be compensated to the tune of €209 a week until they find new employment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭mikethecop


    the lads in my local tesco got a small bonus with in a few months of the pandemic hitting along with as much overtime as they could handle . most of them did fairly well out of it too ,

    fair play to them they did great work in my opinion



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  • Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wouldn't work as a nurse if they gave me 20 extra days leave a year. Tough job.



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  • Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    I wouldn't have been leaving my job for a better paid one. I would have been leaving my job to go on social welfare, which would have been more than I was earning, at the time.

    But you knew that was the point I was making, and you chose to ignore it, Dav10.

    Which tells me you are not being genuine, and are unwilling to take on board anything I say. So, I'll leave it there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Well on the contra side, maybe you should consider working in a situation where you will not know your weekly or monthly income as you go along. Where you are subject to the whims of the economy and government decisions that limit your ability and even capacity to earn an income.

    I'm happy to do that as it suits my temperament. I'm also happy to generate an income, provide goods and services and collect and pay both VAT and income tax to help support the wages and benefits of public & civil servants. All that I/we ask is that these taxes are spent wisely and proportionately. That is not apparent at all with this magic bonus idea.



  • Posts: 14,769 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Loueze, choosing to leave your job so you could sit on your hole, then deciding to play “the long game” is not, nor has it ever been the same has loosing your job either. It really is bizarre that you cannot tell the difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭LillySV


    The biggest waste of your money isn’t the lower civil service … majority of depts have had a significant reduction in staff in recent years and introduced loads of new systems and targets … so don’t worry about that … u need to concentrate your anger and dismay further up the food chain … corrupt govt and highest level of civil service doing very well out of ill made decisions and not having to answer for anything … I can list the children’s hospital and zappone affair as just two recent examples of the squandering of our money … but instead of ousting these crooks and looking for change up high … they have us all fighting and disagreeing with each other … and that’s the sad thing … rte and the indo are political broadcasters for them too it seems which makes it worse … there needs to be change in this Country ASAP but considering all the main political parties are up there together having their slice of the cake.. there’s no opposition apart from Sinn Fein…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,755 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    How did the Zaponne affair squander our money?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Economics101


    LillySV: listing the children's hospital and the Zappone affair as two examples of waste is daft: One is a matter of Billions, the other an annual €15k. No doubt all "waste" is deplorable, but get a sense of proportion. Also you refer to ousting those "crooks". Who are you accusing of stealing? Are you sure that incompetence and convoluted decision-making has not lead to massive cost over-runs. My money is on serial cock-up rather than theft.

    Anyhow, this is irrelevant to the matter at issue: compensating civil servants for doing work, for which they have already been paid



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,138 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    This Covid Bonus debate is causing more Division than NPHET ever did.

    A can of worms has been unleashed, its becoming absurd .I believe in Reward but my god , the figures being mentioned are eye watering.

    Serious Deficit Many, Many, Many Billions.

    Mica Crisis, Billions

    Housing & Rental accommodation crisis.

    Covid Supports and still going, Billions

    50,000 redundancies expected

    Inflation Rising

    Utilities Rising

    Interest Rates likely Rising

    Are we seriously loosing the plot., Seriously

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,344 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko



    That's not how Job Seekers Benefit works. It is limited to 6 or 9 months, then you move onto a means-tested payment. It does not continue indefinitely.

    Who in the highest level of civil service benefited from the children's hospital or Zappone affair and how did they benefit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Magic money trees from FFG. Who would've thought 😅😅😅



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,138 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    🤣🤣🤣 it's just Bonkers the whole thing , I'm not all sure they are aware what's happened over the past 18 months, we've not even stopped spending vast sums on the pandemic. I don't object to a recognition but Jesus wept this is just becoming absurd.

    Paschal the Rascal will be borrowing of us in the next budget at this rate .

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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