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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Juicyfruit


    Does anyone know what happens if you accepted a place on a course you applied for as employed but leave your job before the course commences? I would still be happy to pay the 10% but could it affect my place? I wouldn’t be going on any sort of welfare payment or anything like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭honda boi


    Happened to me last year.

    Applied and accepted while I was working.

    I was then let go the 2nd lockdown and was unemployed when the course started so didn't have to pay anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Level 9 is a higher qualification than level 8 on the qualifications scale. There would probably be more units in a 60 than 30 credit course but the level 9 will be at a higher technical level. The TU course looks quite good, I nearly did it last year before settling on the NCI postgrad dip (level 9 60 credits) - the details on the course units covered should be on the colleges website. The TU course were fairly adamant that a good level of computing is needed - id imagine its similar to the NCI in terms of a lot of Python and R - you can get some level of these skills in your own time (there are a lot of online courses) but be aware than if you haven't done it before it will be a bit of an extra time commitment. You may also have to persuade the college that you have enough coding skills to be able for the material.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 The Plank


    Thanks a mil for the feedback - decided to go with the TU L9 certificate in the end. I've just signed up for a Python course on udemy so going to get cracking on that before the course starts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 Illium


    Is there a way to delete a springboard account?


    Or do you need to go to Web support?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 873 ✭✭✭FazyLucker


    Graduated earlier this year from Postgrad Diploma in Data Analytics in NCIRL (Level 9).

    The core course content was very good for the most part. Became very proficient with Python in particular which was what the bulk of the course was based on. A small bit of R as well but not even remotely close to the level of Python.

    As I say, the core content was good - the elective modules were ATROCIOUS. It felt like these 2 modules were just after-thoughts and the calibre of lecturing in both was very questionable.

    I would also add, the general comms from the college was quite poor. Students needed to kick up a stink before stuff was acted on, in particular in the elective modules. 1-2 students always stood up for the class which was admirable of them. I think 1 student complained about a lecturer and one of the admins came on to a call and said "Pat is complaining about the lecturer about....."!!!!

    Be under no illusions though, the course is a serious undertaking. The level of work involved is very significant (if you want to get a good result). As I was working full-time, I spent most evenings studying or working on projects. The deadlines come thick and fast and no sooner have you a breather from one, than the next one is on the horizon. It would be a tough subject to bluff your way through.

    I am glad I completed the course though, I did learn a lot. But of the class of 50, I think about 22-23 finished.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭jinish


    Dear All,

    I have been offered a place in the DCU for Higher Diploma in Software Development. The deadline to accept the offer is the 3rd of Sep (this Friday).

    I had also applied for Higher Diploma in Science in Computing from NCI But did not hear anything from them yet.

    I have absolutely no background in CS and I am full-time healthcare professional.

    I read that the DCU program has a particular focus on Android App development, whereas the NCI course is more general.

    I would really appreciate any feedback from those who studied one of these programs.

    Thanks a Mil



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Dogtanian07


    Hi, thanks for the info.

    I am doing the HDIP in Data Analytics in NCI starting this month. I believe the difference between the two courses is a project at the end. Therefore I am wondering if you shared the same classes with the HDIP students? Im curious if the workload is the same in the HDIP

    Also apparantley the course content is changing this September to be more relevant and updated following industry consultation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭doc22


    they are not the same, there's hdips on the PGD, one is a level 8 the other level 9. needless to say one is far harder than the other



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Dogtanian07


    Thanks, yes I know its a level 9 v level 8 and its possible after the HDIP to advance to the level 9 with a project + paying the fee.

    The modules in both are very similar and I am wondering if the HDIP and Masters students are in the same class for python etc. Because I am curious about the workload mentioned. Did you do either course yourself?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 873 ✭✭✭FazyLucker


    No, we had no HDip candidates in our classes.

    We also had no project at the end, just projects at the end of each module. Maybe that is changed this year but they should have had much more focus on PowerBI and Tableau, the guy lecturing on this module didn't have a clue what he was at and had no plan other than "yeah, download Tableau, there's a data set in there, go in and play around with it and I'll be back in about 40 minutes". He was absolutely brutal.

    One guy who I work with started the HDip last year and dropped out after a couple of weeks. Wasn't able for Stats/Python so a word of advice, you do need a mathematical and coding type mind - otherwise the course will be hell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Dogtanian07


    Thanks for the info and heads up on stats/python. Thats very bad about the lecturer. Sorry I should have mentioned, I am doing the 2 year online HDIP so hopefully a little more manageable. There was an open day and they are redoing the modules this year based on industry feedback so hopefully its much improved. I believe it will be Python heavy but I didnt see any mention of R



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Sorry, quoted the wrong post.


    Seems like the quality of lecturers is overall poor on the Springboard courses from what I read on here.


    Is it a case of, give them the poorer tutors because it's only Springboard or what?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭fast_eddie


    Not my experience - on the PGDip I did last year through Springboard, most of the lecturers we had were "good" to "very good"...

    There wasn't a separate Springboard class - Springboard people are dotted into "normal" classes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 IwishIknew2020


    This. There aren't special Springboard courses, there are Springboard places within courses that anyone can apply to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Blizzard


    I did a Diploma in Change Management with NUIG (Oct 2020-May 2021). Found them to be organised and helpful; course was all online. The course had three modules with different lecturers for each and each had their own style of teaching--all completely different. For example, the first module we had classes and assignments due every 10 days or so and the lecturer expected a lot from us (hard for those of us who were entering third level for the first time in decades or ever); the second module consisted of 1.5 days online (it was recorded for those who couldn't attend the daytime classes) with a large assignment due a number of weeks later and lecturer was very easy-going/laidback style; the last module also consisted of two days online with two small assignments but the lecturer was organised and thorough and very specific. It was tough at times but I found it worth it. HTH



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭Junior


    How long after you accept a course do the next steps take ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Pete123456


    Usually the college will reach out once it comes time for induction etc. You should hear at some stage starting this coming week but some courses don't start until mid October depending on the college



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Jeffrey Lebowski


    Anybody get a place on a DCU course ? I was sent an email asking me to register with DCU but the form requires a CAO/PAC/DCU Application Portal number but as a springboard applicant, you dont have any of these. Anybody else having this issue ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭DeadSkin


    I received a separate email (from "RegistryNoReply") before getting the email to register, with my DCU Student ID number. About a week later I got an email from "DCU Registry" to register for the course.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Jeffrey Lebowski



    Thanks @DeadSkin. I don't seem to have gotten the other email.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭zep


    I'd disagree with this statement, as a general rule I found the lecturers to be very good, some were in fact excellent.

    But different techniques etc might not be to everyone liking, this would be similar in full time courses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭Skidfingers


    I am looking at moving to Canada in October for 2 years and I've already been approved and enrolled on a Springboards course. Can I still continue with this course?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,197 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Maybe two answers

    1. Theoretically yes as long as the Lecturers allow you be remote. I'm on a course right now and it's back to face to face, no recordings etc so If I miss a class I miss a class. Maybe yours is online and recorded, maybe it's not.
    2. The crux here will be often in Semester 2(when the college/uni) look to Springboard+ to pay them the next set of fees you're asked to prove again that you're eligible and depending on how they ask and how you answer you might not be acting in good faith or being honest. Last College year in AIT I had to resubmit and confirm my details/particulars hadn't changed sometime in January. I'm now in UL and the process was completely different.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Blizzard


    For those who've taken a Springboard course, do the colleges usually provide the text books / e-books to the students OR did you have to buy/source them yourself?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    generally the books aren't covered but the college will have a library that should mean you don't have a big expense there. NCI had a lot of stuff available as ebooks. For many of the topics you may find course texts free online also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Pete123456


    I think it depends on the course. I’ve done a BSc, MSc, SDip and working on another Msc all in different Universities/ITs and I’ve never bought a textbook. I’ve never had a university require the purchase of a book but I know courses like English and Law would be different. Some of the textbooks I “needed” were €200+ and people whinged when they ended up collecting dust after the first few weeks.

    I have always found the internet to be the most valuable resource - YouTube, Elsevier etc etc, again, depending on the subject.

    Most courses will provide some level of notes, others will have pdf textbooks or additional reading material. Finally, as the previous poster said - make use of the library, which should have a book - even if they don’t, ask the librarian and they will order a few copies if the course requires them.

    it really depends on your knowledge of the topic and your learning style.

    i do suggest going in as early as possible in the semester - sometimes people grab the books and hoard them and waiting lists can build up.

    I don’t know if this would work for you, but if you take a video and slowly move and turn through all of the pages of a book, you should be able to pause the video and read a particular page. This has worked very well for me, and you can scan through the video because you’ve followed the order of the book. The main drawback of this is the large file size of the video - but the college should provide some sort of OneDrive or cloud storage etc. That way you may only need access to the book for an an hour or two. Especially useful for short loan books.

    if you feel you want to buy a book, depending on the topic, likely the previous edition or two will only have very very minor differences and should be significantly cheaper, particularly second hand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Blizzard


    Thanks so much for those tips, Pete, very useful. I've taken a course before (with Springboard) and the college supplied codes for e-books. Doing another course now with six modules this term and each advising of 'essential' reading materials but don't provide it and some aren't available in the college library so I'll be taking your advice. Thanks again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭Skidfingers


    On 1st point - this course is online and the lectures will be recorded so this will be fine.


    on 2nd point - how do they ask to prove I’m in the country? I did a Springboard’s course last year and I was only asked in summer 2020 to prove I was in the country, I wasn’t asked to prove again for the 2nd semester



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 873 ✭✭✭FazyLucker


    Don't buy any books. Almost every piece of information you need will be provided in lecture notes, case studies, etc. As somebody said, if it is a technical subject then YouTube, etc is your friends.

    And there's also "other" places to get plenty of pdf of books, etc online.....

    But the overall thing of purchasing books is a scam for me.



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