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9/11 20th anniversary



  • Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭ Avon8

    "Threading the eye of a needle" was the immediate reports by aviation experts, backed up thereafter by the official report. And obviously they missed their target at the much much larger target of the Pentagon, hitting it at the wrong place,amp.html

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭ Motivator

    I remember being on holidays in America in August 2001 and flew from Orlando to New York and New York to Dublin. The flight from New York home was delayed a few hours and we were stuck on the plane. Me and my brother were brought up to the cockpit by an air hostess and we got the lowdown off the pilots. Mad how that was the norm back then. My sister took an unbelievable photo of the skyline under the setting sun from the plane. Despite it not being the highest quality, it was blown up and sits on her wall in her house now. Probably my favourite photo I’ve ever seen taken from the runway looking over at the towers.

    I was in 6th class in school the day of 9/11 and our teacher didn’t say a word about what happened which I always found odd. She disappeared out of the classroom and left us there for the rest of the day. The bell went at the end of the day and I remember all the parents were out talking to one another. I went home and watched the tv until about 2 o clock in the morning and the house phone was ringing all night with cousins and friends of the family in New York reporting in that they were all ok.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭ Peterteanh

    It was an awful day, remember it well. Thoughts to all those who died, especially the Irish victims.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,790 ✭✭✭✭ El_Duderino 09

    When safety measures are taken in advance of a big event, its called "health and safety gone mad". There's no prize for the safety measure when a tragedy never happens.

    On 9/11 I always think there are 2 separate sides to it. There's the obvious tragedy obvious tragedy the pain and suffering from the lives lost and injuries sustained. And on the other side There's the fact that Americans seem completely uncurious about the cause of the tragedy and what they could to do anticipate future attacks, and realise that future attacks are likely baked in when they invade countries (like Afghanistan and Iraq).

    They are two completely separate sides of the situation and it doesn't take from the tragedy. But the fact that they aren't even slightly honest about what lead to the attack means more attacks are far more likely to happen again.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭ BrianD3

    The Pentagon is much larger but only 7 stories, hitting it anywhere would be more akin to a targeted crash landing so not surprising that the hijackers nearly undershot. Hitting the WTC was more of a flying than a landing exercise. Great visibility on the day and two huge towers, one hit much lower than the other but similar result. Options to go around or hit something else if you miss.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭ PokeHerKing

    I remember leaving school and a friend coming over to a group of us saying terrorists were attacking America. It was an absolute rasper of a day as well. Went home and don't think sky news was off the TV for the rest of the week . The whole family eating dinner watching it everynight.

    Mad to think that now we'd all have known the minute it happened with app notifications.

    Had tickets to see Pantera the following week but they got cancelled and replaced by Slayer. They never toured again and then Dimebag Darrell was shot dead by a crazed fan a few years later.

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭ Strumms

    In terms of terrorism it isn’t. Globally...

    In 2008 approximately 8000 people were killed due to terrorism.

    in 2014 approximately 45,000 people on the planet were killed due to terrorist activities.

    in 2017 approximately 28,000 people on the planet were killed due to terrorist activities.

    Al Qaeda have attacked and killed in dozens of country’s in almost every continent.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Where did these figures come from?

    I grew up in the 70s and 80s and I remember many bombings, terrorist attacks and plane hijacking. I don't believe we are in anymore danger then back then, in fact, we were in more danger in the 70s. My own mother was caught in O Connell at in the bombings

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,051 ✭✭✭✭ gormdubhgorm

    I was in the WTC in 1999 getting a tour. To give an idea of the height your ears pop a few times going up the lift.

    Saddest part in hindsight (given what happened two years later) tour guide said in the event of an emergency all people go to top of tower to be airlifted by helicopters. Which was obviously the worst thing to do when the towers were hit.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭ BrianD3

    Some sporting events were cancelled/postponed afterwards including the 2001 Ryder Cup. An event that did go ahead a few days after 9/11 was the indycar race in Germany, was renamed the American Memorial. A horrific crash happened at it with Alex Zanardi losing both his legs on the track, photos of the crash captured bits of his legs flying through the air.

  • Registered Users Posts: 493 ✭✭ BobHopeless

    The saddest thing about 9/11 is America using it as a cover to invade Iraq and kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. That act was as evil as anything Bin Laden did.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,209 ✭✭✭ billyhead

    I was doing a course that morning where some of the students in the college were over from America including New York studying. We were watching the events unfold on a TV in the lobby of the college. The shear disbelief and shock on their faces was horrible. Some of the American students were frantically trying to ring home and one of the students had a relative working in the trade center. Such an awful cowardly action from the perpetrators.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,113 ✭✭✭ martingriff

    I remember reading a book there a few year ago. Can't remember exactly all I can remember is that they landed the plane at some airport and all were left in an airport terminal and Mosad went in. However one bit I do remember is how going to certain countries airports even Greece was seen by some as a hijacking happening

  • Registered Users Posts: 19,939 ✭✭✭✭ Dempo1

    I remember it vividly and at the exact time I was going to view a very rural cottage to purchase (now my home).

    I recall getting lost, literally hadn't a clue were I was, listening to live line and the news Broke. It was the most surreal experience, in a car, middle of nowhere, lost , crap mobile signal and listening to this on the car Radio. It honestly felt like war had broken out.

    I went on to work in America 2006/2009 and even many years later I could sense the affect it had on America.

    Rest in Peace.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.

  • Registered Users Posts: 36,501 ✭✭✭✭ Itssoeasy

    Christ even after twenty years hearing people reading the names out is rough and especially when they get to their relatives and talk about them.

  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78

    hearing stories and seeing footage, is still disturbing, some humans are truly fcuked up

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,717 ✭✭✭✭ nullzero

    Hard to believe it's exactly twenty years since I watched the second plane hit live on TV.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,675 ✭✭✭✭ bnt

    I was on a lunch break on a work-related training course, arrived back in the office, and tried to check my email. The internet was quickly overwhelmed and the news came in through TV and radio. We left early that day and could only watch events on TV.

    I didn't know any of the victims personally, but today they have already read out the names of some people I'd heard of: David & Lynn Angell. David had been a senior writer on two of my favourite TV shows, Cheers and Frasier, winning 8 Emmy awards for his work on both.

    Parvi enim sunt foris arma, nisi est consilium domi.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 36,501 ✭✭✭✭ Itssoeasy

    It does show how bad it was in the towers that jumping out of the towers to your death was the “better” option for those people.

  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78

    thought i had seen the second live, but theres no way with the time it occurred

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,717 ✭✭✭✭ nullzero

    I had turned on the TV when it was reported on the radio that a cessna had hit one of the towers. It would have been just before 14.00 Irish time. When the second plane hit it was initially thought it was an explosion, it was only on replays that the second plane was identified.

    That was the thing about it, so much confusion, nobody knew what was happening and as stated before when it became clear that people were falling out of the towers the gravity of the situation really sank in, it was an unbelievable experience to watch it in real time.

  • Registered Users Posts: 31,399 ✭✭✭✭ BorneTobyWilde

    It's hard to fathom that one , anyone, could just walk into a cockpit of a airliner, and do as they pleased.

  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78

    i was on a 6-2 shift, so theres not a hope i seen either live, still very serial though

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ Flaccus

    I was at work when the first plane hit and I remember a Palestinian colleague commenting on how some depressed stockbrokers crashed the plane and it wasn't a terrorist attack. Still not sure if it was a joke in bad taste, but years later I met him and he thinks it was an inside job. He has returned home since.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,675 ✭✭✭✭ bnt

    The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley, is giving a speech at the Pentagon ceremony now. He sounds angry, and I don't blame him. He's made several direct references to recent events in Afghanistan, and I think his speech will raise a few eyebrows in the press.

    Parvi enim sunt foris arma, nisi est consilium domi.

  • Registered Users Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,652 ✭✭✭✭ Dohnjoe

    Not too difficult for anyone with a bit of experience. They took someone with about the same level of experience as the hijacker on flight 77 and he was able to hit the Pentagon 3 out of 3 times on a proper Boeing simulator.

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