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Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    They were hoovering up watches 6 months ago for frankly ludicrous prices (a number of us here benefited). Would say they stocked up and are not taking their profits.

    Post edited by Fitz II on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,918 ✭✭✭hitemfrank




  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Cassius99


    Thanks for the heads up. Was going to order a couple of rare(ish) bits from the states and Japan. I may wait til they get their act together.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    I've noticed Vodafone have been advertising a 'smart watch for kids' called the Neo. Not that I'd be in the market for something like this but was intrigued enough to look it up on the internet.

    Strikes me as a kid monitoring device for 6-9 Y-Os. Buying the actual device is more expensive in ROI than UK €200 v £100 and then you have the monthly connection fee of €10. In the TV ads they show a beaming dad presenting a Neo to his equally delighted son but I imagine the kid will dump it well before the minimum connection contract of 24 months runs out.

    Another gimmick for over-anxious parents?

    Neo - The smart kids watch | Vodafone Smart Tech



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,932 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Unkel, Kostal, Cyrus and a few others have sparked a curiosity in me for a PAM. Now given the last PAM I looked at was discovered (thanks to Fitz 😉) to be a fake 😤

    I've taken to just looking at present and am bouncing between the 47mm handwind and in the auto sphere, the ceramic Pam's. On the handwinder front before I saw price... 😮 I was drawn to the Blue Slytech but 40k 😮😮 The dial does seem stunning tho, a very Unkel blue 😂

    438 and 441 are very nice, particularly the 438 on a bracelet. I did get to try on a 441 recently and did really strike a chord in me, tho perhaps not so much with regards the strap. It was nice, well made, comfy but I'd want something more than the "plain" strap it comes with.

    Something a bit snazzy, like a snakeskin or a Ted Su vintage ammo pouch.

    But I'm not buying, I'm really not buying because I'll have to sell more and I like everything I have left 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    The ammo pouches are cool. Talk about snazzy, I'm still thinking of getting a blue stingray for the PAM 😁

    47mm and hand wound it was for me, it's actually very easy and pleasant to wind the watch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    i do like the ceramics i have to say and personally am a fan of that strap :D

    one of my colleagues has the 441, looks cool.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Looked up a PAM441....and I am totally sold, looks deadly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    There is something very cool about ceramic watches imo



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Definitely looks like a gimmick for over anxious parents. Our kids (boy and girl under 10) had a few things like fitbits, but a baby g or cheap casio is 100 times better. Anything you need to charge regularly, forget about imho.



  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Blanchy90


    An post tracking is so frustrating... Package left the UK at 2am on Saturday and theres no updates at all from An Post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,808 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Still early days I’d expect it to be on anpost tracking by tomorrow..



  • Registered Users Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Pablo_Flox



    Honestly - reading the thread linked above on An Post returning packages I would not be fancying your chances of having it delivered. They are sending back thousands of packages every day from the UK (and outside of Europe).

    Hopefully it gets through, but I have now had 2 packages returned to the sender - one of them being €5 worth of dog poo bags sent from an Amazon seller in the UK!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,932 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Is anyone here following Talking Timepieces on youtube? I came across the guy originally on Instagram. He has some nice pieces and some strong opinions that mirror some of those here.

    Here he is, riffing on fakes and taking a hammer to a Fake AP.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Anyone expecting An Post to delver something coming from outside the EU probably won't want to read this thread: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058200515/an-post-returning-packages-from-outside-the-eu

    I won't be too surprised if something that came from Japan and is now being returned, ends up being a total €135 loss. I hope someone finds a legal angle to have a go at them and does so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,918 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    I had a package coming from China that was marked on the tracking as having cleared customs for about 8 days before it was delivered by An Post. It only entered their system on the day it was delivered, so figured it was going to be sent back.

    Guess I was one of the lucky ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭IrishPlayer


    Over the last year especially, watches have become a huge part if my life. Starting with my trip to Prague, finding that pilots watch,then a week after getting home, attending the watch talk by Damian Duggan, getting chatting with some great people.

    Then in July finding that Dolphin Bell got me chatting with a guy in Australia the past year who is a retired engineer that also repairs watches and has told me time and time again to start repairing myself.

    After going to Birmingham to the watch fair, meeting John Bentley I knew I wanted to explore further options regarding getting into watchmaking.

    I have watched countless hours worth of watch repair videos on YouTube and have always wondered could I do it myself. Looked into getting some basic tools and old movements to practice on, but without the knowledge the tools wouldn't be of much use to me.

    Got the idea to go into town and ask around about how to get started and possibly work with a watchmaker to see if I even have the nack for it before going out and buying loads of tools.

    Had a day off from work today and finally made the trip in. My first stop was to Dawson Jewellers, which funny enough, never been inside! Plenty of Rolex to look at! Got chatting with the guy there,who was very friendly and helpful.

    Unfortunately as I already knew, there isn't much in the way of training in Ireland, the college in Blanchardstown that I live right beside, closed down. There is a college in Manchester that would be the closest. I asked if it would be possible to work with one of their watchmakers, even on one of my own pieces, the Heuer Stopwatch for example and pay as normal.

    Handed me one of their cards and said to send in my CV and go from there.


    Before leaving, he mentioned a place along the quays,Dix Jewellery Tools & Equipment [Link] that would give me an idea regarding tools required.

    A quick Google search after stepping out showing it closing for lunch, had to get a move on! After making my way to the quays, found a non discript shop front that I must of passed by many a time

    Went inside and started talking with the guy, a watchmaker. Supplier of both jewelery and watchmaking tools. As before he mentioned there isn't really much in the way of training anymore in Ireland. I was saying I just wanted to know if it is something I could even do, weither as a hobby or as a job.

    He took my details and said he might know someone I could work with for a few weeks. There was also a basic watchmaking tools set for €30 I was tempted but decided to hang on for now. Very happy I finally got around to going in, not sure what will become of it.

    And I saved the best for last! I brought along my broken Heuer Stopwatch I picked up in Wicklow. After showing it to the guy at the tools shop..... It's alive!!!

    He wouldn't even accept payment! Would need a service, but to see and hear it working for the first time in god knows how long! Yet another chapter in my watch journey!



  • Registered Users Posts: 381 ✭✭Ian OB




  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Blanchy90


    Delighted to be the first reviewer in the world to get my hands on this. Its quite large at 44mm but the profile is slim enough so it wears very nicely




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    CAB doing a great job again ,Anyone able to name the watches?2nd one I think is a Patek and possibly a Breitling in there as well ?no idea of the models




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭Ryath


    Patek and Breitling alright quite a few Omega Seamasters and I see at least one Speedy. There's an IWC Pilot a Cartier Tank and a Panerai in there to. Few other high ends too. I'm sure there's a fake or to in the mix. Hopefully the owners spot them.

    https://garda.ie/en/about-us/our-departments/office-of-corporate-communications/news-media/jewellery.pdf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    I haven't a rasher's on the jewelry, but a lot of those watches are fake to my eyes. Tags, Breitlings, Omegas. Wouldn't give me a lot of confidence in the rest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    That’s a good link . Some amount of junk watches on it



  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thought I'd share this anecdote. I found it funny.

    I have a Fossil Hybrid SmartWatch. I had a minor accident recently and the crystal got smashed. The watch still works but the crystal needs to be replaced. I looked up their repair centres. Scrolling through the list of Repair Centres, I noticed their repair centre in Afghanistan is at:

    AFGHANISTAN

    Luxe Koncept Les Montres Trading

    2nd Floor, 786 Pharmacy Building

    Karte Parwan, Wahaj Hospital Street

    Kabul- Afghanistan

    Meanwhile, their repair centre for Ireland is:

    IRELAND

    FOSSIL

    IRELAND REPAIRS

    Rue du Martelberg , BP 80023 MONSWILLER

    Saverne Cedex, 67701

    France



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    denartha quote:

    "Thought I'd share this anecdote. I found it funny."

    If you're in Kabul a broken crystal on your watch is probably the least of your concerns.

    Fossil is a fashion brand so it's appropriate its service centre for Ireland is in Paris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    This is a real headache for myself - I had been using CN22 forms but it seems now that electronic CN23 forms are needed (as in I head down to the post office, and the postal staff has to type in information into the computer, print it and attach it to the package...) I'm so glad this didn't happen earlier in the summer when I sent out around 200 packages - it takes around 4-5 minutes to send one package to the UK now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Christ almighty. I got sent a leather watch strap from the UK from a top quality hand making shop. He filled in the CN22 form and all. Watch got intercepted by Irish customs and returned to sender. And for what? Even the guys in the post office were embarrassed by this anal sort of behaviour by Irish customs :-( They said all was grand until a month or so ago and now Irish customs are deploying these sh1t tactics. And it's not like anyone is trying to defraud the revenue here. The item was properly marked and declared and all required forms were filled in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,808 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Yeah last few things I’ve bought from uk I’ve used a courier. It’s fine going the other way. Sent a watch Tuesday to London marked at 200 euro as per value and sailed through to sender with no customs charges their end



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭njburke


    Same situation here with a watch from Japan. From looking at the label I think the HS Tariff code is blank and that's the issue I had. Value and description was there, address was perfect.

    Postal service from Japan is €22 , FedEx or DHL starts at €50.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭IrishPlayer


    I was very relieved when the Business Bell finally arrived, the suitation is crazy!

    Started off getting it shipped via EMS as I have done with two other watches, cost was €24.87 Then it began to bounce back and forward between here and Japan!

    When I got the email to say it had made it back to the warehouse in Japan, I was relieved that it hadn't gotten lost and decided that the best thing to do was just to go ahead with FedEx. The intital shipping cost was €18.21 and it arrived very fast

    But at a cost.......

    Still happy with the decision, glad it's finally here in one piece! Hopefully this will be sorted soon as I would be put off buying anymore (possiblily a good thing! ;) at the moment, along with sending them to be serviced in the UK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭IrishPlayer


    Have a week off in October around the 18th, with some normality returning and a good time of year for it, thinking about having a Watch GTG.

    Would be in the city center, learned from the last one and will be in a better location this time around that can be arranged via PM or set up a WhatsApp group. Thinking of a Sunday (17th or 24th). No matter what day, someone will miss out so maybe something we can start doing more often if all goes well giving everyone a chance to attend one.

    EDIT: Also thinking of trying out the Zoom GTG idea that might be a better solution to allow more people to attend. Thinking of having the first one this Thursday and if all goes well possibly a weekly event.

    Post edited by IrishPlayer on


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Been in Greece the past 10 days, Santorini and Mythos and the watch spotting game is next level, Rolex to the left of me Rolex to the right and AP stuck in the middle



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Half are fake....but you are right. In ireland we dont realise just how popular the luxury game has become.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Have the Panerai want again :(

    Pam995 is latest crush.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    They never stick with you, but if the darkside is on the block give me a shout 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,149 ✭✭✭893bet


    What’s in your box at the moment?

    The VC, the JLC Polaris and the zenith?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Vc, jlc x2 polaris and 8 day pc, zenith, iwc Portuguese and dark side



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,932 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The Zenith is very, very nice IMO. I'd actually meant to drop you a message to give me a heads up if you ever consider letting that one go. Was only discussing with someone recently.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,696 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Thanks to the dept of ag I've developed a criminal mind (we're assumed guilty until we can prove our innocence in all dealings with them) I can see an opening for someone to move watches and other valuables in and out of EU. If customs don't get the finger out and cop on that trade needs to continue, we'll just have to find an easier way for trade to happen.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    "The bureau has been seizing increasing large amounts of luxury goods from suspected criminals in recent years. High-end goods, such as Rolex watches and designer handbags, are seen by criminals as a convenient and less obvious way of storing wealth."

    Aircraft owned by cannabis dealer among items auctioned by Cab (irishtimes.com)

    Criminals love ROLEX.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    i'm sure they do, but also newspapers will report a name like rolex as its one most people recognise, if they said parmigiani watches do you think it would hit home the same way?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    They love art too. And antiques. Both worlds are heavily cut with the proceeds of crime. As the writer says they're great ways to store and clean wealth. If you ever come into gains, ill gotten or not and want avoid the beady eye or taxman go out and buy antiques for cash. Appreciating wealth you can claim you've had in the family for generations. Vintage watches were in that mix too for a time, because they're very easy to move across borders. Interestingly enough well known stuff like Rolex not so much, because well it was well known. I remember one commentator back in the day reckoning part of the growing appeal and values for steel cased watches was they attracted less attention from the customs types.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Antiques aren't all that great an investment. First you need to know what you're buying, second if you buy retail there's the shop/dealer margin, that's even before you take account of changing tastes that can have a major influence on value.

    Buy what you like, don't pay over the odds and enjoy without expecting any financial gain or even to come out without losing.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    It can depend on the antique. EG nice quality well proportioned Georgian chests of drawers are very stable as investments over decades and considerably safer to economic forces compared to new designer stuff. But I was talking about criminals and their money. There would be a better and safer return on such items than the other money laundering methods. Then we have mutually agreed values which apply to the wider world as well. Diamonds were one for a time, but the wider understanding that they weren't so rare and valuable has put paid to that except in the brand new market. DeBeers came up with the Diamonds are forever line partly to influence people to hang onto them as their secondhand values were significantly lower. In watches precious metal Rolex was another agreed value. Today it's steel Rolex. Such things become currency for a time. Cowrie shells as it were.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,932 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    A favour to ask of the posters with Sales Corner access on TZ-UK please?

    I'm looking for an Omega 2535:80, the blue Bond GMT. There's 1 on watchuseek but in the US.

    My post count over there is still too low to view the sales corner, and I don't want to start spamming threads to bring my count up.

    So can I ask those of ye with access to keep an eye out over there for me please? I'll keep posting and will hopefully hit the 50 needed in a week or 3 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    I think of antiques and art were not good money makers then all the antique dealers and art galleries are in trouble. I think that with almost any commodity if you have good taste, know what you like, buy well and buy quality you will be fine. Quality always sells.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭fulladapipes


    Years ago when I lived in the UK, I went out with a woman in Aberdeen who ran an art gallery. Most of her income came from renting art to the HQs of large companies (nostly oil) for 6 months at a time. The rest came from framing and then selling actual art.

    She didn't wear a watch (just to keep things on topic).



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Pretty much, though good taste can be variable over time and culture and fashion. Quality is a good litmus, though another good indicator is things that were rare and expensive when new tend to keep their value over time, though often suffer an out of fashion phase. That's the time to buy. I always liked Art Nouveau(the fanceh French kind rather than the British Arts and Crafts) as a style and I remember a time when it was very much out of fashion and I got a few bits and bobs at the time. Lately it's gone a bit down again. Art Deco seems to hold value and interest for longer. Though the best is again French, rather than the later mass produced American stuff. This could be one reason why it has more hold, there's simply more of it and dealers have more to sell. That has a lot of impact on ordinary collector values. This goes for watches too. You can create and sustain a market for something mass produced and more common far more easily than you can for something produced in far smaller quantities.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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