Schools and Covid 19 (part 5) **Mod warnings in OP**

NPHET never recommended masks for primary.

The ISAG did but they have no remit.

I know the managers in our company were explicitly told they were not allowed ask any staff anything about vaccination.

Maybe it's because of the unknown and they are being safe, but for a school to openly ask kids, not in private, but in a full public setting about what is essentially their private medical history is a bit dodgy, to say the least.

That should not be happening. The only time a school should ask about vaccination statusisin the case of outbreak due to differing protocols for vaccinated and unvaccinated.

Yes, our daughter is in 6th and it was a topic of conversation yesterday among the kids - who is 12 and who has had the Vaccine.

So far since the 26th August reported by Alerting Parents of outbreaks in schools

3 Creches - 3 Cases reported

3 Pre-school - 3 Cases reported

40 Primary Schools - 65 Cases reported

14 Secondary Schools - 18 Cases reported

60 individual Schools/creches and 89 cases in total.

I think employers are going to have to be realistic about continuing to facilitate working from home. Otherwise they will have to accept an ongoing level of unscheduled absence or risk a close contact causing widespread absences a week or two later.

Yes but a single case is not an outbreak:

3 Creches - 3 Cases reported

3 Pre-school - 3 Cases reported

3 places, 3 cases among all 3, meaning a single case in each, so technically not outbreaks.... Yet.

I never said 1 case was an outbreak. There are a few with more than 1 case and remember these are only the ones that the info was passed on for recording. There are plenty of other schools not listed that have cases.

The main 2 schools I speak of 1 reported 8 cases in 1 day and another 5. Some schools have a number of cases in 1 class.

People can interpret it as they want.

"@rtenews Niamh O’ Beirne, the HSE lead for Testing & Tracing said that 700 schools have come forward to report a positive Covid-19 case in their setting, since reopening this week. “What it means is that a child contracted Covid-19 in the community and went to school when 1/3"

700 cases reported by schools since they reopened.

So, that's 700 times the HSE is aware that the virus has been brought into schools in just a couple of days, yet still no need for masks or proper ventilation measures? This is madness... Why not do everything we can to make sure schools stay safely open? Nothing is more important.

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1434183768605143048?s=20

Got our Co2 monitor yesterday. Can't say it's going to help me much seen as it's being placed in the least ventilated part of the room well away from the kids. It does have nice colours though

So who’s actually sick? There will be war if masks are recommended for Primary. And I don’t mean by teachers, but by parents and many other professionals in the field. I’ve read recently FDA approval will come in the next few months for children to be vaccinated in the US from ages 5-12. This mask wearing ploy here is coercion in the extreme and that’s its only purpose here. Let’s allow the vaccinated children take off their mask. They know the data will show that the risk v benefit ratio will be in realm of the vaccine being more dangerous than Covid to this age group. Let’s not forget flu is more dangerous to young children than Covid.

It’s one thing to come after adults re vaccine passports. It’s another entirely to even suggest masks on Primary school children would work, and to impact on children’s education PURPOSEFULLY as a means of coercion and control.