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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    2091 positive swabs, 8.98% positivity on 23,277 tests. 7 day test positivity is 9.6%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Record cases in Scotland today. Looks like schools going back is the reason, with Total new Scottish Child cases of 1778 - 35% of total Scottish cases of 5021.


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    It's not related to schools. Scotland's current spike started well before their schools even went back. It started rising again at the start of August, and the spike began on the 15th. Schools went back beginning on the 16th.

    Higher case rates in unvaccinated population, i.e. younger people, are to be expected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Oh right ! You best phone up the people in charge of Scotland's health and tell them that they have it wrong then.



    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I don't see anyone in charge of Scotland's health making any statements in that article. The deputy first minister claimed that "Undoubtedly the gathering of people together in schools will have fuelled that to some extent". I see no reason to disagree with "some extent".

    Nevertheless, the graph on that page speaks for itself. The spike started before schools even went back. Therefore any impact from schools has yet to be really seen.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,333 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Mícheál will be back on the phone to Nicola Sturgeon now so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Nothing to see here, just a coincidence

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    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭gral6


    Close the schools bullshite again? Fed up of this....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    You're not the only one. Same thing every time schools have to reopen. Spin the oul globe there and find some country that's has a bad news story and apply it to Ireland somehow, but ignore other countries that are removing restrictions etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭brickster69


    It's not really spinning the globe is it, it's only 12 miles away.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭gral6


    I know. This idiotic narrative just drives me mad



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    Lucky the schools weren't closed and you were able to study geography, eh?

    Brazil, India, US, Peru, South Africa.....want me to go on? We love a good Covid misery story in Ireland so we do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,869 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭zebastein


    So the first red line is supposed to show what : that after the schools closed, the cases increased ? Or do you mean there is a 2weeks delay to see the impact before it starts decreasing ?

    Second red line : the cases increase the day after the red line.

    Either the impact is immediate, and the cases should not increase after schools closed in June, either there is delay in the impact, and the increase we see in the next week or two after the schools reopened is not related to schools. But it can't be both at the same time, depending on what we want to prove. Only 2 points taken on the chart and they are not consistently showing the same thing.

    Let's add more points:

    • Christmas 2020: close the schools -> peak of cases for 2 weeks
    • 10 aug 2020: school opens -> nothing happens

    There is no direct correlation between the number of cases in the general population and the fact that schools are opened. There are too many other factors that have an influence.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,477 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Posts deleted - this is not a place to conduct inquests into individual cases



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭brickster69


    I don't see what the big deal is, everyone expects cases to go up once the schools go back.

    I mean look at the difference in a week

    England cases today down 4.5% compared to a week ago.

    Scotland up 97.8%.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Posts: 695 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cases of everything go up once schools go back, even the nits come out of hibernation.

    We know this and its never been a problem, it will be less of a problem than flu because children get sick with flu unlike covid.

    We need to live with this thing now, tighten up infection control in hospitals and discharge people quickly, dispense with this nonsense of people staying in beds Friday, Saturday and Sunday because there is no one to discharge them, that can be sorted imneduately.

    Have a time limit on how long elderly people are in hospital, plan for nursing home, community care etc as soon as elderly person is admitted. If they get covid they could end up occupying an ICU bed for months.

    Is there any report anywhere of plans fir the winter or is it to be a winter of hospital chaos like we have every year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Eh? I thought you were in the "it's harmless/open up/most of those people would have died anyway" camp - who are you suggesting would have been saved?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    People's relationship with COVID is eh, complicated!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    2,051 new cases,323 in hospital and 56 in ICU



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭godzilla1989


    No joke but it's starting to get serious now

    Hospitalisations up 75 on last week.

    Case hospilisation rate stubbornly hovering around 2%

    If cases crawl up to 3,000/4,000 a day after schools, colleges etc open we are looking at 60/80 admissions a day and in big trouble then.

    In that situation if hospilisations hit 500 with those transmission levels it doesn't take much to get ugly, 500 can double to 1000 very quickly, across the pond schools are closing with Delta outbreaks.

    I just can't understand how we only had 26 in hospital on 25/08/2020, a 1146% increase vs 25/08/21.We were incredibly lucky not to have Delta last summer, we'd have been fucked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭gral6


    Seems like India doing great with their Delta now 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭godzilla1989


    They are and fair play to them, whatever they are doing is working

    Israel on the other hand are getting absolutely battered, record high today

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  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    And what makes you think they will go to 3/4000 a day. There is zero evidence for that at all.

    the UK has no restrictions, lower vaccinations, mass gatherings everywhere, crowded pubs, and their case numbers are, per capital, equivalent to c. 2,500 here. 3/4000 would put us, by some distance, the worst in the world for new infections.

    it’s a ridiculous notion



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    Is it though ? We need proper transparency with the numbers, how many are admitted to general beds/ICU with breathing difficulty and or pneumonia like symptoms?

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    Nothing ridiculous about it, Northern Ireland regularly reported 1200 cases on a daily basis over the last few weeks equivalent to 4000 cases here.

    We will not reach those numbers but not impossible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭godzilla1989


    Look at Scotland’s cases

    Schools opened and record cases now

    Or as above poster Lukas said about NI

    Its far from unlikely



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    Anyone explain to me why govt keeps saying it will peak in late September? Like why doesn’t it just keep going if ya get me? Like in late September wouldn’t it just spread more with more of us indoors,etc? I am not disagreeing with the point - just confused as to why they would say such a thing?

    Also if there are 300 plus in hospital now won’t there be a lot more in late Sep/early Oct???

    By the way I want us to get back to normality but looking at the past don’t numbers keep going up the more we hang out/get closer ??! I’m confused :)



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