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Is it cheeky to ask my landlord for a new hoover?

  • 23-08-2021 6:59pm
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    I moved into a new place just over a month ago. Our rent is very reasonable and its a lovely place. But the hoover is extremely old (looks to be from the 80s or 90s) is huge, and has awful suction. It’s heavy and really hurts my back to use.

    The hoover is on the property’s inventory, and I can’t tell whether it would be very cheeky to request a new one or if it would be ok to make a request based on the above?



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  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not cheeky to ask. If it's not working properly, you are well within your rights.

    Maybe you could agree a budget with the LL and have one delivered and get the costs taken out of the rent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭1874


    There is no requirement for a landlord to provide a vacuum cleaner, nor many other things that are usually provided or expected.

    I dont know why tenants just dont buy their own stuff at the quality and price level they want/can afford, that way there is no complaints over how effective it is.

    Only things legally required to be provided are white goods, and imo only fixed white goods should be required, cannot understand why a tenant wouldnt at least want to provide their own mattress, fridge, even washing machine.

    Vacuum cleaners can be relatively inexpensive, a cheap fix would be just go out and buy one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭Snugbugrug28


    I daresay he would just expense it against his tax bill in any case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Stick up a picture of the Hoover , it sounds like it could be a jet pack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Not cheeky in my opinion



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Not cheeky in my opinion



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭CiboC


    I'd be happy that my tenant wanted to use it to keep the place clean!

    If it really was that old I'd be happy enough to replace it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭kheb


    Definitely not cheeky.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If it's listed on the rental/tenant agreement as an asset, go ahead. In the past, I've had to replace/upgrade for my tenants a variety of appliances that I'd listed as assets on the rental property.

    If it was just in the place when you moved in, and there's no mention on your contract, then, there would be no obligation. Still, there's no harm in asking, especially if you're serious about staying for an extended period.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What? You expect a tenant to supply their own hoover? Ridiculous



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭degsie


    Probably best to ask about a vacuum cleaner instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240


    You can't understand why a tenant wouldn't want to bring their own fridge?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    There's a list of what's legally required in a rental and a vacuum cleaner isn't one. So if the Landlord doesn't supply a vacuum cleaner how is the tenant supposed to keep their home clean?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,206 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    To chime in with my own experience, nah op, you won't get a new hoover. Only essentials are covered. Cooker, heating etc. Buy a new hoover and take it with you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭ElJaguar


    Suck it up, OP😎



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lidls have a beauty / cordless Next mon.30th@ €69.99c 21.6v / simples



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    If the air quality of it is poor, as in it has a poor filter? or no filter? no harm asking for something safer.



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seriously????, 'something safer' ........... it's a hover we're talking about, not a sawn off shotgun/ jar of nitrogliserine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,084 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    And if the landlord doesn't supply lightbulbs, how is the tenant supposed to see at night? Ditto toilet paper and their cleaning their backside.

    Seriously!



    OP, you can use a broom+dustpan. Or buy your own vacuum cleaner, which meets your particular requirements around age, weight etc. Or if the landlord's one is actually broken, you can ask for a replacement. If it's fine but just not to your liking - tough.



  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah, in comes Bumble on the side of The Man again. Never gets old.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,800 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    You could ring them “ ohh btw that Hoover / vacuum is fûcked “ they’ll either say, ok buy a new one or they’ll replace it...

    i wouldn’t expect a landlord to buy a Hoover though, they’ll be buying toothpaste for the tenants next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GSBellew


    I should have rented instead of buying.

    The landlord is no more obliged to provide you with a vacuum cleaner than they are a jacuzzi, the one that's there is listed because it belongs to the landlord, don't like it, don't use it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    You didn't notice the fridge? LLs own fault if the place is left filthy through his stinge.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    Get your own hoover I'd say. A good one is a great investment, for your home and your back, and chances are he'll just replace his own hoover at home and give you his old one anyway. I can guarantee that's how the house ended up being furnished, with his second hand stuff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Moved into my new place about 3 months ago. Hoover was goosed. Said to landlord. New one arrived within a week. I’d say it depends on the landlord.,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭dubrov


    Most landlords would get you a new vacuum cleaner without hesitation.


    Only the cheapskates would refuse and they'll generally drag their heals on any issue they think they can avoid dealing with



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Yes tenants are meant to provide their own vacuum cleaners. They are also obliged to keep the property clean. Love how people want better tenants' rights but balk when it applies the other way. A smart landlord restricts what they supply so they don't have silly stuff like this as tenants break and steal things



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,730 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    You can chance your arm alright.

    But I remember when I moved into my first apartment I'd to buy my own hoover. Just buy a really good one and you'll own it for years. Still have mine over 15 years old not a bother.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭antix80


    If a hoover was provided and stops working, LL has to replace it.

    Op, make sure you change filter and hoover bags, and unclog any material from the airway. If there's still a problem you should bring it to LL's attention.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    I wouldn't expect a landlord to provide a new hoover. Best way to approach it is to mention to him that the current one isn't great, and ask would he prefer to replace it, or for you just to buy your own and take it with you when you leave. Ideally mention "I was looking at an x brand, they're about €y price".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭moceri


    Make it easy for him. Suggest you arrange to buy the hoover - ask him for a price ceiling and he can reimburse you on receipt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    No they don't. It can be listed as a asset for the landlord but they can simply remove it from the list. Nobody signs a rental agreement dependent on a hoover



  • Registered Users Posts: 970 ✭✭✭crl84


    Um no.

    There are many things in houses/apartments when you move in that may be provided for your convenience, but the landlord is under no obligation to provide or replace.

    Unless it's specifically mentioned in the lease, then the LL doesn't have to replace it.

    Most landlords will be decent and get it replaced though if it's broken.

    "Poor suction" is a matter of interpretation, and being old and big isn't a valid reason.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hi all, OP here. Thanks for all the replies.

    So I asked my landlord, explaining that the hoover is very old, not very effective, and is difficult to use, so would he kindly be willing to supply a new one so we can keep the place clean?

    He replied that this was no problem, then txt again to say he’d ordered one from Amazon for us. What a sound bloke!

    Moral of the story: if you don’t ask you don’t get :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,730 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Just an update on this.

    I jinxed myself.


    Hoover broke

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    As a landlord, anything that was in the house I rented to my tenants, I am ok with them asking me to upgrade or repair.

    Doesn't mean I will agree to every request, but don't think it is at all out of place to ask.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Hope you get a Henry. Having that jolly little red face following you around is like having a new pet. Hoovering is a lot more effective when you get on well with your hoover.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    l'd trown a glass of water on the motor from a distance whilst turned on. Let it dry out after the motor blows and then tell your landlord it's faulty. Since it's an old thing they won't doubt you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    The landlords reading this might doubt a tenants story based on this encouragement to be deceiving. That's worth keeping in mind.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Seems your landlord is much more decent than lots of the tight arses on here 😁



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7 SophyQ





  • Registered Users Posts: 7 SophyQ


    Not at all! It wouldn't be cheeky to request a new one. I think the landlord has to provide a comfortable living. And to ask for a new hoover is not cheeky at all. Possibly, they refuse, but you have to say anyway. If you don't want to be an inconvenience to the landlord, I can recommend this https://menacetopests.com/dust-mite-vacuum/#product4. It's a light one and you can take it with you when moving out. Hope this is helpful



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Just a thought, have you tried emptying the bag ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭CinammonGirl


    Delighted you got your new hoover OP! As a landlady, I would be v happy if tenants asked to upgrade a hoover (I had one in my property but tenants brought their own). Shocked at the scabby responses on here!!!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Being based in a country where the tenant rents a totally empty apartment, and must supply all their own furnishings, electronics, appliances, and even curtains, I think it's laughable that Irish tenants expect a landlord to provide them with a hoover. Do you expect them to provide toilet paper with which to wipe your arses, too?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Yes landlords are thick and have never had a tenant intentionally break things. Had a tenant claim the washing machine just broke suddenly. Look at mangled runner by machine and bits of runner in the machine.

    "Did you put your runners in the washing machine?"

    "No why would I do that?"

    " To clean them"

    "Not me"

    " Why are there bit of runner in the machine and a mangled runner there"

    "No idea"

    "is that your runner"

    " no"

    "You live here alone, who owns the runner"

    "I don't know"

    " I'll get you a new washing machine but you will pay for it"

    "That's not fair it is an old machine"

    "It's 3 years old"

    " I won't pay"

    "OK"

    When getting their deposit it is reduced by the cost of the machine. He goes balistic reports me to the taxman and files a case with the PRTB. No issue with tax, go to the PRTB and he is a no show. Genuinely not worth making him pay so I don't bother anymore just add it to the costs of being a landlord



  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    Best way to manoever this is to ask for the hoover and suggest you buy it from nexts months rent deduct the amount and buy a new hoover give him the recieipt & leave it in the apartment when you leave.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa



    Not all our fault you chose to live somewhere miserable. Suck it up. Oh, you can't. You didn't get a shiny new vacuum like the OP did! 😜



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    This thread was started in August of last year and the OP was sorted within days.



  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    sorry the query just resonated with me as i did have the same issue and asked for the hoover thanks for the update :)



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