Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

That's a fair cherrypicking of data there, given that the "10% of cases" figure was a month ago.

The reality is that without knowing the age profile of those in hospital, all of your calculations are wrong because they're based on assumptions:

1. Vaccination is evenly spread across all age groups.
2. Hospital admissions are evenly spread across all age groups.
3. Everyone admitted to hospital is admitted for severe covid

Which we know are wrong assumptions.

That is, someone in the 70+ age group who develops symptomatic covid while vaccinated is at a considerably higher risk of requiring hospitalisation than a 26 year old in the same scenario. The CHR is about 3-4% amongst the whole population, but it's 20-35% for people over 65.

Which means that even among the vaccinated older cohorts, we will see a higher incidence of hospitalisations. If it's only 9% for them, then that would be amazing.

But unfortunately we've had no age profile of hospital cases since May, so we're stuck.

@taxiperson wrote:

OK so. Rock solid data there. I'd say Paschal is sh1tting himself.

Just wait for Tony to come out of shadow again. Last year it has not happened well when he returned a day earlier.

They stopped publishing it due to the hack. I'm assuming it's way down the list of priorities, but it is very annoying not having it.

The 14-day epidemiology reports from the HPSC shine a clear enough light on the impact of vaccination without having to look at hospitalisations. 95% of all cases at the moment are in the under-65s.

Unless they were rushed to hospital these were just faints a common reaction to needles of any sort and can affect anyone .

If you are so concerned why not get your daughter to have a private blood test for antibody levels ?

Then contact the Dept of Health and NIAC and get them to change the law all over EU for your daughter ?

Would be a good thing to do as you feel so strongly about it .

I was wanting to see what are the current covid restrictions in various countries around the world.

Is there a website that would give me that information without me having to look up each country separately and laboriously?

You are right . Only Auckland since July . I think .

Ahhh right.

So all those years of putting needles in people and they fainting , it was THE VACCINE all along !

Wish I had known that 😯

No offence Shesty , but maybe they were sparing your sister's boyfriend's blushes!

2,098 new cases, 251 in hospital and 52 in ICU. Hospital numbers holding up.

Absolutely nobody who collapses, faints or otherwise feels ill in the vax centre, is experiencing an immune response from the mRNA part of the vaccine.

An immune reaction to the takes a minimum 12 hours to kick in, even in the healthiest individuals.

The 15 minute observation period is to watch for severe allergic responses like anaphylaxis.

Anyone fainting in the vaccination centre is experiencing fainting as a psychological response. It doesn't have to kick in when the needle appears, there can be a delay of a few minutes.

Someone doesn't have to be afraid of needles to experience this, it can occur quite randomly and even without the individual necessarily "feeling" nervous beforehand.

12 hours? What are you basing this on?

Its stress of getting a needle I am talking about .

Most people don't even realise they are under stress until they faint .

It's called a vaso vagal response and is part of your body's 'fight or flight 'system and is totally unconscious on the part of the person .

I have young people at home myself so understand what you are saying but tbh think you are over egging it a bit , taxiperson !