Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

The big problem with the NPHET governments policy of pushing fear and hiding under beds is that it really doesn't prepare the country for living with covid. You really can't push a narrative for 18 months and then immediately pivot to a very different one, especially when you haven't implemented any of the requirements that living with covid needs, more ICU capacity for example.

We are heading into winter and the justification for lockdowns to protect the health service apply just as much now as they did 12 months ago, that is a failure of governance in every regard.

Very hard to call... I reckon 2k a few days ago, and probably ACTUALLY 2k on Saturday and Sunday, reported Sunday and today. So I think a backlog will appear over the next few days with a Wednesday bump of 2,500 cases.

You would think we didn’t have one of the highest rate of vaccination in the world by reading the article. Plus at this point I doubt vaccinating the remaining 500k adults or so will make any real difference in cases and hospitalisation.

Ye I'm not sure why they are acting like the vaccine uptake isn't really high. Mind you I'm not getting a 3rd dose they can stick it up their hole if it doesn't change anything for me besides make the manufactors more money.

I don't think it would be met with anything other than open arms being honest. I know a good few older people (fully vaxxed for months now) that still refuse to sit indoors for a meal when out with other fully vaxxed people.

Was in Dublin centre last week for a few beers, fair play to the boozers doing their best to accommodate people and allow them to be able to get in and have a beer but it is a hassle. The family over from the UK had their COVID vacc details with them but as we all agreed, its a shame that we're still doing this... but.... at least they are open i suppose.

And also noting some of my favourite pubs still closed and locked down, such a shame to see.

Indeed. But specifically social engineering like vaccine passes for indoors, vaccine passports etc were absolutely rubbished and laughed at on here. Even as recently as the end of June anyone who suggested that there would be vaccine passes for indoor dining was scoffed at as a mad lunatic. A week later it was announced and soon became a reality and suddenly the people scoffing at it were engaging in mental gymnastics to try to justify to themselves that this was always going to happen and is a very good idea.

How can you deride something such as nationwide lockdowns and bans on travelling over the past year when they'd already happened. There's a lot of revisionism on this thread.

Have to say that I hadn't given any thought at all to whether I would take a booster shot, but on reflection it is an easy enough decision.

I was never scared of getting covid but I got my 2 vaccines anyway, just to get it done and over with. But I am sick to my teeth of this game of constantly moving goalposts, where 2 weeks becomes 2 years, where levels become "levels with modifications" and now where a vaccine becomes regular injections for a virus that I'm still not scared off.

What comes after the booster shot? I bet it isn't a full and complete return of civil liberties, that is for damn sure, so I'm not going to be playing my part any longer.

Except that's not what happened. Speaking for myself, I didn't think they would be a thing and I said as much. I didn't call anyone a mad lunatic though. I came back and posted when they were announced that I was wrong previously. I didn't say it was always going to happen and I still don't think it's a good idea. I'm not sure if there were many (any?) others that posted as you have described. More revisionism?

I think you'll actually find the ban on travelling to airports, ports etc didn't come in until late in 2020/early 2021. Prior to that any suggestions that it would happen were laughed at. The evidence is in the threads so I think you should go back and read them.

Furthermore the initial lockdown was eased from May 2020 and largely lifted during the summer last year apart from local locdowns in Offaly, Laois and Kildare. Suggestions that we would have more lockdowns last summer were again absolutely laughed at.

This isn't revisionism - these are facts.

The vaccine isn't free. We'll all be paying that back.