"Scientists from hundreds of years ago may have got some things wrong shocker!!!"
In other news, and back onto the topic of the thread, where do the rockets go when they disappear through the clouds on the way to the ISS if the ISS isn't there?
there is no point discussing anything who gets things so wrong. Oddly enough von gumpach had a very similar writing style to yours. He was also very aggressive and rude to those who disagreed with him.
C'mon Markus, get some confidence and show us, in image form, the shape that you think the earth is.
Doesn't need to be the actual Earth
Can be approximate
You don't need to go onto rants about scientists
As long as you don't break any rules, you can write whatever you want here, make up whatever you want.
It's all completely meaningless unless you can demonstrate it to others and provide credible evidence. You haven't done either, you made all sorts of extreme claims, made no effort to back them up, evaded questions. By definition you're the fraudster here.
That's a slur, not an answer, so I must conclude that you cannot answer.
Bring back the :pac: !
"Why do you think Newton's theories of orbital mechanics have anything to do with the shape of the earth not being a perfect sphere?"
I never made any link between orbital mechanics and the earth not being a perfect sphere. Why would I answer?
You are taking questions now or no?
Are satellites real?
Is the Earth a globe?
Is the ISS real?
Markus is too afraid to show us what approximate shape the Earth is, those questions will never be answered.
They also do this really weird thing of replying multiple times to a question, then saying "I never said that", caught twice now in the past few pages.
So why make a nonsensical claim that Newton was responsible for the deaths of thousands of seafarers? It's complete rubbish.
Cause he's desperate to make a point, any point to deflect from how much running away and ignoring he's had to do on this thread.
If he was a troll he'd be spewing out ridiculous point after ridiculous point and wouldn't be passing up the opportunity to respond to points with more ridiculous claims.
However he keeps avoiding the things that he can't provide an honest answer to and seems to be getting very annoyed that no one is taking him seriously. To me this tells me that he's genuine, but like most conspiracy theorists isn't very honest or well informed.
I think he is a flat earther or a geogentrist or something ridiculous. But he has learned that people dismiss him and mock him when he's open about his beliefs.
However when he leaves things vague and "just asks questions" he find that he can trip up some people or fools himself into believing that no one can counter his questions. This allows him to pretend to be clever and well informed.
The issue here is that he's run into people who've got a baseline knowledge of science and space and who want him to elaborate on his beliefs. This is obviously an issue for him.
That’s a bit disingenuous, he never claimed that at all. People here putting words in his mouth,
Then you clearly have not read this thread.
Throughtout this thread Marky there has claimed that every spaceflight he has pointed to is faked. Including the latest private flights, Space X's flights and the entire ISS. He also has contented that all Mars missions and LEO missions are also faked. He has claimed the moon missions were faked.
We've repeatedly asked him to clarify what he actually believes and asked several times which spaceflights he believes are real. He has not answered.
So if you are now contenting that this isn't what he believes, could you explain which spaceflights he believes are real?
I read three pages of it and everything He stated was twisted to mean something else. He laughed at Musk and Bezos going 80 and 100 km up and calling it space, It’s not really is it? I have a sneaking regard for Musk but what he said about two rich guys showing off strikes me as true. He is right about the earth not being a perfect sphere, it’s far from it. He is obviously intelligent and educated albeit with an unusual way of communication. Why ridicule him?
As I've said, you haven't read the thread properly. Maybe you should do so before commenting.
He has repeated claimed that may spaceflights are faked. In particular he has claimed that the latest landers on Mars are all being faked.
Do you believe that any spaceflights are faked?
He is not being ridiculed. People are pointing out that his beliefs seem to be very contradictory and very silly and people are pointing out that his behaviour is very dishonest.
Do you believe it is acceptable to ignore points because you can't answer them?
Just for reference: an example of Marky claiming that spaceflight is being faked for reasons unknown.
He is right about the earth not being a perfect sphere,
he thinks its a prolate (elongated) spheroid, rather than an oblate (flattened) spheroid...
After a lot of dancing around, the poster directly claimed they believed the space program is fake. You need to read the thread (it's around half-way through)
A few years back I had to realign our satellite dish.
Very strange how they've been able to fake microwave signals carrying hundreds of real TV and radio channels and get them to come from the precise spot in the sky that - if space programmes were real and satellites existed - a geostationary satellite at 28.2 degrees east of south would be. I've no idea how they fake that.
Most flat earthers are pretty young, so they grew up with the internet rather than radio or satellite TV.
How they explain how mobile phones work... who knows?
Mobile phone towers
Ok, I’ve read enough of it to see that he does not believe for what ever reason that Space flight exists…
And attacks posters who ask questions, and soapboxes about how stupid everyone else is, and plays the victim, and wants a safe space, and lectures posters about the "truth". It's the usual package.
He also claimed that Newton got his physics wrong. Yeah, that Newton.
...and claimed that Newton is somehow responsible for the deaths of thousands of seafarers, but ran away when asked to explain how or why
Christ, this thread.
A Thesis could be written on it, OP I haven't gone through it all but you say the pics are like a camera used in your grandparents wedding ..
That;s pretty good resolution, more available below.
You should contact RTE history if you have such high res. pics of your grandparents wedding, they'd love it ..Joe Duffy would do 3 weeks of Lahvline on it ...
4 citizen astronauts are currently orbiting the earth globe every 90 minutes and will continue for 3 days.
Markus, start saving now and you could be one of them as well in the near future.
I thought the picture of the martian moon by perseverance was kind of cool, it's really trolling the OP that not only are we visiting other oblate spheres in our solar system but taking pictures of the orbiting moons of those oblate spheres, all using Newtonian physics!
I did a quick google image search of that image. How come there are so many definitions and resolutions of the same image? Like this one:
How can you tell which one is genuine?
I just googled and found plenty of the same image
The one you linked is fake
Are you going by the name "fake-space-pic5.png"?
That's just the name I gave the file when I screen grabbed it! Lol!
What's the source of it then?
I did a reverse google search on the image, where is it?
I also did normal google image searches and can't find yours.