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F1 2021 Round 11: Hungaroring

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  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Gary Scrod


    Hamilton has self diagnosed his 'long covid'.

    "I haven't spoken to anyone particularly about long COVID, but I think it is lingering there."

    Do people really believe he wouldn't go see a doctor (even the team doctor) if he was experiencing 'dizziness' and 'blurriness' after the British GP?

    "I had something similar in Silverstone but this is way worse. I was having real dizziness and everything got a bit blurry on the podium."



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I hope he’ll be ok but it does raise the question as to whether it is safe for Lewis to compete again. If long covid can hit you out of the blue at any time, what’s to say it won’t happen in a battle mid race?

    And what about Perez or any other driver or team member that’s had covid?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,547 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I've always doubted the "kimi is hilarious" nothing. He's pretty rude, which is fine, but I haven't seen the hilarity in it. The "I know what I'm doing" quote was seen as hilarious, they sell it on t-shirt and everything. If Hamilton said it, it would be thrown in as further evidence of what a nob he is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I feel like Kimi is only in F1 as a way to pass the weekend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Yeah for me it's not what he says it's how he says it. Yeah he is pretty rude but he reminds of a traveller call out video where they start of kind of calm then 20 seconds later they are screaming into the camera with a knife.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Sorry for double post, quote thing is strange.

    Yeah, there were talks of him calling it a day at the end of the season to spend time with family etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    Hamilton has to be the biggest whiner on the radio going by what’s broadcast . He’s always crying about something when they play the radio feed. For a few weeks in a row it was how he couldn’t compete with max and how the red bull was so quick and they couldn’t compete, couldn’t be that fast etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭Zookey123


    Haha just saw this post and had to respond. Whoever this guy is he is the most toxic troll/ poster on this thread. Not one of his posts has anything to do with motorsport just his constant hate for LH. Why so obsessed with one driver?



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,794 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Apparently its coming out now that Hamilton was sick because he drank Vettel's fuel after the race so he could get bumped to 2nd.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭FrostyJack


    I just got back watching formula one regularly after about a ten year absence and was really enjoying it up to the last 2 races, then we were robbed of real race between Max and Lewis. Hamilton is one of the reasons I stopped watching it, for a multitude of reasons I am sure a documented on the forum. Ironically his stance on the environment and BLM etc are the only reasons I have anytime for him. Obviously he is a great driver and skillful racer but imho his amazing records and stats are skewed by having the Mercedes in this era and the amount of races and points per season compared with previous era's. That been said the amount of garbage I have read online the last 2 weeks has made my head spin. How 2 sets of people can look at the one incident and see 2 totally different things is beyond me. IMO Lewis knew if he didn't take Max on the first lap of Silverstone, he would have ran off with it like the sprint race, so he made a schoolboy error and took Max out. He didn't try kill him or want to cause millions in damage to Redbull. Same with Bottas missing his breaking point, again a schoolboy error not intentional. Toto was asked before race did he have a word with his drivers about the start, and to paraphrase he said if I have to tell them how to drive something has gone wrong, maybe now is that time? The damage to Perez's engine and Max's the previous race will hit them again before the season is out because of budget caps. A rule should come in, if you cause a crash you pay for it not the victim. So annoying we have to wait a month to see how this plays out. Thanks to bad driving we will miss 2 months of Max vs Lewis this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,163 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    Schumacher was a ruthless so and so who would do anything to win including deliberately taking out an opponent. I can't think of another F1 driver from the past forty years you could describe in similar terms. Hamilton is a whiner and a bad loser - the Arsene Wenger of motorsports, you could say - but a fair sportsman. It's just his lifestyle and his half-assed espousal of certain causes that make him appear unlikeable to some people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,547 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    He's pretty full-arsed about some causes that the f1 demographic is less supportive of than the general population. Causes like BLM (if that's one of the causes you were thinking of) are not popular amongst the F1 fans in general. F1 fans tend to be older, white, middle class men so its not terribly surprising that they show more opposition to a cause like that than the general population. But I don't think you could say he shows half-assed support for it. Could you? I'd say he shows full-arsed support for a cause the f1 fans generally oppose.

    He's certainty a whinger on the track though, nobody would deny that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭FrostyJack


    The only person I regularly see as a counter to Schumacher is Senna, as if he was gentleman driver. He literally took people out and Eddie Irvine would tell you about his off track aggression and narrsasism. To be at the top of any sport you have to be super confident. Hamilton has backed it up over the years, but in my humble opinion he hasn't been tested since Rosberg. As an aside, a lot of counter arguments since Silverstone was that Rosberg, apparently Lewis's worst critic said it was a racing incident so therefore it was, last weekend put that to bed as he literally cheered him on and was as bad as any Sky Sports fan boy during the race, I nearly vomitted. I am sure there are some guys here from the Rte days and they would not be as sympathetic. I seen a great meme of Hamilton solo on the grid, saying how the British media see F1.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    So Lewis thinks Fernando went beyond the limit in defending at Hungary and now Max is facing a 10 place grid penalty later in season as a result of being punted off the track by Hamilton and then as a result of Bottas screwing up


    The 10 second penalty for Lewis and the 5 place grid penalty for Bottas are incredibly soft if you look at the bigger picture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭McFly85


    I don’t think he actually thinks that, though. I thought I saw someone show his Instagram story where he said how amazing it was to see Alonso race like that again. He was probably just annoyed at the time.

    The penalties are fine from a driver standpoint, they made errors and are being punished in line with similar incidents. The issue is that Red Bull are also being punished for those errors for being collateral damage.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    To be fair, it was Stroll who caused LeClercs damage, not Bottas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭patsman07


    But I don't remember Schumacher being so unpopular with the other drivers. Agree with your description of him as ruthless and I think to be fair, Hamilton wouldn't do what Schumi did to Villeneuve or Hill. Yet their seems to be more dislike towards Hamilton than there ever was towards Schumi. I've posted two videos on page 26 of Alonso at the weekend stating that 'Hamilton is always complaining' and the he was also blocking Hamilton for Max!

    Here's another from a driver's briefing-Hamilton is complaining about something Vettel done with his steering wheel and Grojean jumps in to attack Hamilton...

    Romain Grosjean defends Sebastian Vettel in Driver's Briefing... - YouTube



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Sorry yeah, he got 5 place grid penalty tho. Bit of a joke



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,163 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    I think Alonso is less popular among his peers than Hamilton is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I think 5 is fair enough for Stroll, took out 1 car. Bottas took out Norris, that's 5, took out Perez, should be another 5 and damaged Verstappen, should be 3. So 13 grid place penalty is my calculation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I think that would be very harsh giving the conditions, he made a balls of his braking but the conditions played a role in that too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    If I knock down and kill a cyclist in the rain will the judge go easy on me because it was raining? I seriously doubt it. I don’t understand why the conditions should be factored in. These guys are supposed to be the best in the world. Bottas and Stroll should be at the back of the grid at the next race or else not on the grid at all and it should have been the same for Hamilton when he took Max out. The FIA are a joke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,547 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I'd be shocked if conditions wouldn't be used as part of your defense in such a situation. If you were charged, would you seriously not even consider using the conditions as part of your defense?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    I obviously would but I wouldn't expect the judge to entertain it, especially if the cyclist had a high vis and lights etc maybe I'm wrong but imo it's ridiculous that they take rain into consideration when deciding on a penalty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
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