F1 2021 Round 11: Hungaroring

barryribs · 30-07-2021 8:35am #1

Round 11 of the championship takes place at the 4.3 km Hungaroring.

The forecast is for rain Saturday and thunderstorms Sunday.

Live on Sky and highlights on C4

Hijpo · 30-07-2021 10:30am

Tsunoda loses it in turn four and red flags the session momentarily. Hits the barrier with the rear, not a massive impact but might be some gear box damage.

Bottas tops the times with 10 minutes to go on the softs 1:17:616

Vertsappen doing some runs on the hard tires was a second off him. Comes out on softs, down in sector 1, purple sector 2, sets a 1:17:555 to top the times.

....so far...

barryribs · 30-07-2021 2:05pm

Tsunoda on the back foot for another weekend with a solitary lap in FP2.

It doesn't look like running the engine from Silverstone has slowed Max down too much in FP1, if that was the case. It looks like its going to be very tight between him and the two Mercedes this weekend.

Hijpo · 30-07-2021 2:33pm

Missed FP2.

Only caught a glimpse of the time sheet, Ham, Bott then Ver was 0.200 down.

El_Duderino 09 · 30-07-2021 4:09pm

Some big gaps between teammates in FP2.

Hamilton and bottas on the same pace

Max half a second ahead of Perez

Ocon 4 tenths ahead of Alonso

Norris 4 tenths ahead of Ric

Kimi 9 tenths ahead of Gio

Ferraris within a tenth

Vettel a tenth ahead of Stroll,

Russell 2 tenths ahead of Latifi and

Schumacher the bare 2 seconds ahead of Mazepin!

Gasley in 6th but Tsunoda only did one flying lap due to a crash

Interesting to note but, it's only free practice

Frank Bullitt · 30-07-2021 5:44pm

Track temp got up to 68 today, that is insane heat.

Looks like it will cool off for the rest of the weekend a bit.

Hijpo · 30-07-2021 7:08pm

Noticed Merc having trouble getting the left rear off at the end of FP1. Had three or four goes at the wheel nut.

Wonder will there be much of that if the temps stay up.

seamusk84 · 30-07-2021 7:27pm

Alpines looking quick in FP2. Vettel and Stroll looking good too.

McLaren might be in for a tough weekend!

Frank Bullitt · 30-07-2021 7:34pm

In a nutshell, the rears are getting cooked as soon as they leave the pits and overheat soon after. Merc like this because they don't heat up as much, RB don't because they push more energy through the rear.

Should be a close race!

El_Duderino 09 · 30-07-2021 8:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684712#Comment_117684712

They might be close in quali pace, but those scenarios mean that RB will be hamstrung on race strategy. They will either have to pit one more time than Mercedes or tiptoe around and avoid overhearing the tyres all race. Mercedes will have much more options and will have the ability to push harder.

If the temps stay high then I'd strongly favour the mercs for a 1-3 or even a 1-2.

When's the last time Mercedes scored a 1-2? Seems like ages since they were almost guaranteed 1-2 every race.

Frank Bullitt · 30-07-2021 9:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684836#Comment_117684836

Yup, if the temp stays up then Merc will love it. If it cools then we would get more of what we had in FP1, which looks likely with the cooler weather coming in.

I think we have only had a 1-2 race start this year...that is crazy.

Charlie-Bravo · 30-07-2021 9:41pm

I like these tech talk pieces from Sam Collins with Scarbs. Interesting what the teams have done to help cooling the cars for Hungary.

https://youtu.be/AC0eOfQl1d0

31-07-2021 10:46am

Wouldn't be shocked to see Schumacher out of qualifying, decent impact with the wall. Think he winded himself as well.

Pity, looked like he was driving pretty damn hard. Bit of a difference from Mazepin's usual. 😂

skipper_G · 31-07-2021 12:42pm

Haas didn't look in any hurry working on Schumacher's half finished car so safe to assume he's not taking part in qualy.

Elsewhere Giovinazzi avoided a penalty for blocking Gasly in FP3, a reprimand only. Alfa Romeo fined €5K for Giovinazzi unsafe release where he made contact with Stroll

Thomhic312 · 31-07-2021 12:46pm

Any video from the Schumacher's impact into the wall?

Hijpo · 31-07-2021 1:02pm

Was that the error of the mechanic for the unsafe release?

skipper_G · 31-07-2021 1:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117686677#Comment_117686677

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1421437988760965124?s=19

Schumacher's incident

phatkev · 31-07-2021 1:19pm

Really enjoying Nico Rosbergs commentary and insights on these Q1 runs

skipper_G · 31-07-2021 1:22pm

Gasly P5 and Tsunoda P16 over a second slower. 6th time Tsunoda has been eliminated in Q1 this season. I really think he could have benefited from another year of F2

Thomhic312 · 31-07-2021 1:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117686844#Comment_117686844

Only got the chance to tune in at 2. Did Nico mention anything about the incident with Max and Hamilton?

barryribs · 31-07-2021 1:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117686844#Comment_117686844

He's really good, can read it very well even from the external cameras

Hijpo · 31-07-2021 1:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117686860#Comment_117686860

Pretty much said it was Hamiltons fault and that the stewards should have found a way to make the penalty more penalising given the severity of the out come.

But as has been said, the penalty was applied to the incident and not the outcome.

Busi_Girl08 · 31-07-2021 1:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117686854#Comment_117686854

It feels like Tsunoda peaked to early. He had a great opening race and never managed to reach that again so far. It seems like that's frustrating him?

Itssoeasy · 31-07-2021 1:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117686884#Comment_117686884

He has shown when he connects it all together that he can be very good but like you say, he’s not been able to repeat what he did early days of the season.

Itssoeasy · 31-07-2021 1:36pm

Big shunt for saintz. Car doesn’t seem that badly damaged bar the front wing.

Itssoeasy · 31-07-2021 1:37pm

I wouldn’t be attempting to drive that car with the front wing under the front wheels.

Hijpo · 31-07-2021 1:40pm

Whoa, got a fright there, session to resume at 15:41...

skipper_G · 31-07-2021 1:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117686884#Comment_117686884

Yeah that frustration is evident when you hear him on team radio. I think it's partly down to inexperience and amplified because he's not getting anywhere near Gasly. Hope they can work with him and try to get him back on track and he doesn't end up on the Red Bull scrap heap