Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Yeah, I have to reject the argument that somehow vaccine numbers will lead to us getting rid of all restrictions. Where is the evidence that this will happen? It is not in any government or NPHET press release. It seems to be implied somehow and perhaps makes sense but there is no specific plan from official sources that more vaccines mean an end to all restrictions. Especially when the government is FF and FG, I think it is safer to err on the side of caution and not trust them. As such, I'll believe it when I see it when it comes to vaccines ending the restrictions.

What level of vaccinations will lead to all restrictions being lifted?

80% of population?

100% of aged 18+ double dosed?

100% triple dosed?

100% triple dosed including new Echo variant booster?

Whats the number, does anybody know? Or is it a state secret known only to the lord and master?

Based on the data of the last 2 months, we have more than sufficient numbers vaccinated, and have so for some time, to get rid of all restrictions. Hospital numbers totally manageable with deaths of course at 0 to 1 per day (in line with suicides and maybe double that of road deaths so perfectly within what is typically accepted as a reason not to impose severe economic and social restrictions on society). Even those who were categorically at little risk of getting a serious dose from covid have been vaccinated to alleviate their anxieties so we would appear to be fully in the clear.

As I have said over the last year. Never, not once has the government promised a return to normal. It has never happened. They have said "some normality" but they have never said anything about no restrictions.

We've seen much lower Vaccine uptakes around the world. Viruses and variants will keep spreading. Tony and co will be "recommending" restrictions for years to come.

Unless there is some masterplan to start invading countries to jab people. Sounds bat **** crazy. Vaccine passports seemed batshit crazy last year. Will invading countries be bat **** crazy next year?

Get well soon.

Yeah just like Latitude 4 days after England's Freedom Day, was the very first camping music festival to kick off with 40,000 capacity. so far very little Covid cases have been reported by folk who attended the festival. https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jul/24/latitude-festival-2021-40000-party-people-good-vibes-and-not-a-mask-in-sight

Not at all. Just pointing out yet another example of the baseless speculation here that is often applaud by some as fact.

This is simply not true. I remember writing to a number of local TD’s around the time of the gyms closing on the second or third lockdown (been so many now I can’t remember specifically.)

It completely landed on deaf ears and in most cases I never received a response - this was a collective effort from tens of thousands of people across the country.

Equally, business owners will not rock the boat. The reality of this situation varies massively to what you are actually suggesting

Well, they are unlikely to produce any instant declarations off the back of the fairly fantastic vaccination numbers. There are still a good few cases, even if they are resulting in fewer hospitalisations. It takes time to review data and publish a plan and they are being advised by an extremely conservative advisory body. It's not in the government's interest to continue with restrictions, especially as the bill heads towards €30bn. We may well have a low level of cases moving into the later part of the year but it is unlikely IMO to keep us under restrictions.

But, but, but the hurricane, what about the hurricane in term of cases, hospitalisations and deaths that coming?🌬️

What’s pissed off the most is, almost from the beginning I’ve expressed a lack of confidence in NPHET, they seem to be at odds with the rest of the EU on their decisions, but then claim ECDC data backs up their projections… so I ask “how” did NPHET come to different conclusions than the rest of Europe. I am instantly branded a conspiracy theorist / anti vaxxer. Nothing could be further from the truth. I just don’t have confidence in NPHETs competence. I think Tony has gone with his gut over science as he can’t trust the people with the honest facts and data. As for Philip Nolan, he’s messed up modelling completely, undermined public faith in antigen testing, his positions have no basis in science, he’s a danger to society, I’m not sure what is motivating him…

but hey I’m the pariah, I’m the one not pulling on the green jersey. At least I now know what Roy Keane was thinking in Saipan

better than me - i wrote to my TDs (and MEPs once) a fair bit.

I got a heap of sh1te and waffle back the skirted but ultimately failed to answer my questions - with exception of Duncan Smith (Labour) and Claire Daly

to be fair Louise OReilly (SF) didn't waffle me cos she never replied - not once.