Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

I agree that it's just posturing to influence future decisions. Anyone follow the Lions in South Africa will recognise the SA director of Rugby doing exactly same thing today.

Should the change the way the give out penalties to match the consequence of the infringement and not the actual infringement itself? Or maybe they should match the penalty to the driver and car combination because penalties affect different drivers differently. Hamilton can make up a 10 second penalty in his Mercedes but a 10s penalty has a much bigger consequence for a driver in a lesser car in the midfield. And how do tou penalised a driver like Mazepin who is all alone at the back of the grid anyways? So how should the hand out penalties?

I think they should just keep it the way it is now. No rules are perfect

im all for letting them race. but it has to be inside the rules. your not doing your job if your not on the edge though

hamilton was well outside the rules. . he could not make the corner without hitting max.

i think the penalty was very light compared to other penalties. if lewis was breaking late and locked up the penalty would be far but he was no where near makeing a pass . it was a dangerous moove that was probably going to take out the driver in front. which it did

Well outside the rules? What's in your rule book always give way to Verstappen?

No one can prove that Hamilton couldn't make that corner, especially not using an old Red Bull on hard tires with an ex F1 driver.

If the same accident had occurred between two cars lower down the grid, if there was any penalty at all, it would have been 5 seconds at most.

I do think it's both sad and hilarious that Red Bull delayed Albon going to DTM for a filming day in an old Red Bull driving Hamiltion's line through the corner and then tried to submit that as evidence.

We'll see what happens this weekend now after their smack from the stewards for throwing around allegations.

the rule book is prity clear that you dont drive into your oponent.

what do you mean that it cannot be proven. its a fact. that is what happened. he didnt make the corner because he hit max. if he could have made it then he would have.

if max had done that to lewis i would say the same.

Mercedes are the same, they’re the first team to run to the FIA to complain if they think a competitor is outside the rules.

I’m sure RB knew the stewards wouldn’t entertain the “findings”, that whole video thing was to stop Hamilton from leaving a wheel in in a similar situation in future.

Its a shame it has to be this way, RB have done a stellar job at taking the fight to Mercedes this season.

The appeal was laughable anyway. Hopefully both teams can put away the handbags now.

This debate has done more laps then the actual Grand Prix.

Without a Black Flag the stewards had as much power to prevent Lewis winning the Grand Prix as a referee has to prevent a 10 man team winning a match after sending a player off for a bone breaking tackle.

Netflix will be releasing a Michael Schumacher documentary on the 15th September.

Ocon is using a new chassis this weekend and BBC is discussing the impact of changing chassis both psychological and otherwise. Ocon seems to be going well again this practice session. Worth watching how he goes this week.

Bottas and Hamilton changed chassis a few races ago and it didn't seem to have any impact on Hamilton but Bottas has been on better form since then. Do we know if they have both kept the chassis from the swap or was the chassis Bottas complained about replaced? BBC report that Mercedes used to always report the chassis numbers in their pre weekend press report, but have stopped reporting that detail since then.

I didn't know he had it in Silverstone. Silverstone was a better race for him finishing on pace with Alonso (just 4 seconds behind).

BBC said it's a bit of a last resort when they can't find anything actually wrong with the car and maybe it is psychological or maybe there is something worn with the car that they just can't detect but the driver can feel it and loses faith in the car. Very hard to know. The real test would be to tell the driver it's a new chassis but not actually change it.

It's racing. Hamilton went in a bit hot and couldn't make the apex. Happens all the time in other racing, 2 and 4 wheel. We want overtaking and sometimes things like this will happen.

A smarter driver might have let the place go, especially being so far ahead, possibly gaining the place back later but at least keeping most of the points difference. Is it Brundle that says the one "to finish 1st, 1st you gotta finish".

sorry if this has been asked already but is that sprint qualifying they had at silverstone being tried again in later rounds?

will be interesting see how it goes at Monza

If anyone has a million or so to spare, one of Villeneuve's 96 Williams is up for sale.

https://speedmastercars.com/vehicle/williams-fw18-3-renault-3-5l-v10-2/

Ha! Yeah he was incredibly lucky today again. Points in the bag though.

I was referring to last year and the last few years when people were making excuses left, right and centre for his embarrassing performance level. Has improved to mid-table this year though.