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Summer 2021 General Discussion

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Sorry to ask but was wondering if you could give me an idea of what the weather will be like tomorrow afternoon in these parts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Bucketing down in S Wexford



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    Have you only just arrived down there,its been at it since early afternoon down therr

    Very light up here,started about an hour ago



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Very heavy rain on the radar up over Waterford (red rain on Netweather.... 20-40mm/hr), so likely some flooding there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Some decent rain at last likely for my area in Kilkenny, felt like the driest area in the country for a while now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    What way are ye for grass around your area,Are there any farmers foddering?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    just day last week i was sweating the mickey off myself and now look 😙 chilly & wet

    irish weather heh!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,483 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Grass de-yellowing by the minute here!

    Gardens needed it, hopefully we will have another bash at summer proper in August (week three would be nice as we are in Wexford that week :D)

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    It was probably getting close to it in some areas, though I did hear of at least one case of foddering, the dry land had been showing a lot of stress, where the grass had been eaten down, a mixture of green and brown.

    The rain last night was decent so a lot of relief around to see the rain, but more needed to get it really fixed.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Miserable morning here in Meath, wet and chilly. This is easily the worst week of weather we've had since May. Rainfall totals for July are now close to 92mm for Dunsany making July the 3rd wettest month of the year so far. This total does not include any rainfall overnight and this morning so we will finish up very close to or at 100mm of rainfall for the month.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭boetstark


    I'm not from a farming background, but wondering how farmers in other countries survive. Ireland gets 10 days of summer the place goes into meltdown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    We usually get 1 day.

    Must be Climate Change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Heavens have opened in Naas



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    November came early this year...



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Some parts of Kilkenny did not receive a lot of rain since May. The south of the county got a lot more than the northern part for example.

    It was not a case of just a hot week, the hot week just burnt ground that was already very very dry and hard.


    It was noticeable on the Sunday farming forecast for a number of weeks that inland south east Ireland had very low grass growth rates compared to the rest of Ireland.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Got caught in an absolute deluge in Dunshaughlin, so much for this weekend looking a bit dryer. Easily 5 or 6mm of rain fell in just 15 minutes, lots of surface water and spray on the roads. Horrible conditions out there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭esposito


    Massive downpour here in Dublin. Miserable. Holidays coming up in mid August, surely we’ll have an improvement by then



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    My cousin just sent me a video of the Dublin downpour, the one here earlier in Dunshaughlin was probably worse. Unfortunately for August we look more or less locked into a 2 weeks spell of conditions similar to last July or August. There are still signs of things warming up and settling down but this is unlikely to happen until the middle or second half of August. The long term models are looking at warm and high pressure for the first week of September when the kids go back to school. You can nearly always bank on the first to second week of September having lovely summer style weather.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    more heavy rain here at Dunshaughlin, a dirty evening after a very wet day. My father has switched on his heating for the evening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Have to agree with RobertKK's analysis of the rainfall situation in these parts, this week's rainfall has delivered very little to rectify the drought conditions across the southern Laois and northern Kilkenny areas. Coupled with very sandy soils here, crops are really struggling. Half an inch of rain over the guts of a week when the soils are crying out for 4 to 6 times that much isn't simply enough. It's a crucial part of the summer season now for getting moisture into the soil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Up here in Leitrim the weather was brilliant for fodder. We made plenty of Hay and haylage ourselves. Very good quality. The barn is full.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    The radar this morning does not accurately describe the intensity of the showers whatsoever. About half an hour ago it was utterly lashing and nothing more than a blue spec even on the netweather radar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,323 ✭✭✭highdef


    Netweather radar is where it all went wrong!!! It's not great at all, especially when it comes to less heavy rainfall. Met Eireanns own radar is the best by far, both in terms of accuracy and resolution. If using the Met Eireann app, you can zoom in a lot. The main thing with the Met Eireann app versus Netweather is that Met Eireanns radar is usually about 10 minutes behind Net Weathers so if you look at the latest image, Met Eireann's is usually close to 15 minutes behind whilst Net Weather's can be as little as about 7 minutes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Cannot agree whatsoever, the colouring used by Met Eireann makes it very difficult to distinguish between heavier and lighter rainfall. Much prefer Netweather.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Turned out a lovely evening after a misty start to the day,pleasantly mild when the sun comes out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Just put together a chart showing the relationship between 850-hPa temperatures (T850) and maximum surface (1.5-metre) air temperatures (Tmax) before, during and after the recent heatwave. The T850 figures are from the 11Z Valentia soundings and I chose Gurteen as suitable station as it's not a million miles from Kerry but more importantly it's well away from the influence of sea breezes. It's also in a natural setting, away from any possible artificial influences.

    Also shown are the daily sunshine hours for Gurteen. Obviously, the longer the sunshine the higher the temperature, and this also influences the relationship between T850 and Tmax.

    The general rule of thumb is to add 15 degrees to T850 to get Tmax, but there are tonnes of caveats to that, namely the time of year (sun angle and duration), cloudiness, soil moisture, altitude of the station, lapse rate below, surface pressure, etc. However, it's clear that once the warm airmass and cloudless days were in place (from July 16th), Tmax went from 11.4 degrees above T850 on that first sunny day (>10 hours of sunshine) and rose to 13.8, 14.0, 15.8, 14.2, 15.6, 15.7 degrees above on the next six days.

    Obviously this is just Gurteen and stations further west and northwest squeezed the extra couple of degrees out of it, being even more removed from the easterly sea breeze.


    Castor Bay were only launching balloons at 23Z. All of its T850s were a degree or so lower than those of Valentia but those extra degrees were also squeezed out there too. That's the cumulative effect of multiple days' heat and also maybe less of a sea breeze influence from the short sea track from northern England.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    We've had nothing but scant, insignificant rainfalls here in NE Galway since the middle of the month. Very dry and grass beginning to get that burnt dark bluish look. And very little rain to be had for this part of the country in the forecast as far as I can tell anyway.

    New Moon



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    A very different story here in Meath, it's been very wet since Tuesday morning although today is a bit dryer but still showers around. Dunsany is now sitting at 96mm of rain for the month, half of that fell in the first week of July and the second half of it over the past 4 days.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    We are the same Gonzo at Dublin airport. At 72mm and most of that fell this week in big downpours. We will end up with high enough rainfall considering we had a 10 day heatwave.



  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭scouserstation


    Looks like it's going to be an unsettled start to August but we can't complain too much over in Dublin it's been a fairly dry decent summer, lots of fine warm weather most of the time, wouldn't be the end of the world if we get a bit of rain for a few days, it will keep the farmers happy



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    Yep, will take this for a week or two but would be nice to get last two weeks of August some High pressure building and up to mid 20s. A sunny august is well overdue so it owes us those two weeks minimum 😎



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Besides the persistence and high temperatures during the heatwave obviously, what I find quite impressive about July 2021 was how the sunshine total dramatically rose because of that very sunny period.

    For the first 13 days, Dublin Airport had only 35 hrs of sun which was on par with July 2020 and was exceptionally dull. However, despite this, the monthly total in the end managed to reach 190 hrs which is Dublin's sunniest July since 2013. Still below April and May of this year but I was impressed just how much it had risen because of one (remarkable) sunny period.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Looked at The monthly Data for Shannon Airport and the mean temperature for July 2021 is 17.8°C. That makes warmer than July 2018 at 17.2°c.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    In terms of the national mean, July 2021 was the warmest since 2013 at 16.8c (2013 = 17.0c) and was on par with that of July 2006, but just ever so slightly cooler (by 0.15c) than that of July 1983. July 1995's monthly mean of 17.1c remains the one to beat.

    Data from Met Eireann.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Surprised July 1995 was the warmest for national mean. I would have guessed July 2013 or July 1983. Met É's anomalies give July 2013 as the warmest July but guess these are the deviations you can get by using different stations for a dataset.



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    It was a pretty warm Summer

    It reminded me of Turkey at the time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    True, but in fairness, there is very little difference (0.1c!) between the national averages the July's of 1995, 2013 or 1983.

    Anecdotally, I'll still remember July 2021 more for its cloud than sunshine. It started and remained dull up to the middle of the month, and finished on a very dull note also. I think my mind has shut off that 10 day sunny spell that occurred between these two points because it was so unenjoyably hot to be out in. I don't think I have ever seen so few people out in (supposedly) fine weather in high summer as I did during that spell.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    the coming week is going to be sh1t 😕

    looks like the 9 day scorchio was our summer



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭External Association


    Ah no. Still 3 more weeks. Can get a lovely spell yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Luke-m


    Keep the faith. I think the second half of August is looking much better for settled weather.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Plenty of signals for things to warm up considerably into the second half of August. Up until this week it's been mostly dry and relatively warm since the end of May. The past week is by far the coolest and wettest week of the summer and this week will be more of the same but hopefully after next week things should improve somewhat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    From Met Eireann "On this day 2nd of August 1995, Oak park recorded the highest temperature for the month of August of 31.5°C"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Cool dark and wet morning in Leitrim. Not good at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Same in Galway, but I am enjoying watching the (painfully light) rain falling. Makes for a pleasant change and will do plant and tree life some good.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Drier brighter weather with sunny spells has arrived in Castlebar from the north west. Better evening ahead



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Just bringing this back up as the Armagh temperature did not pass quality checks and the Castlederg 31.3C is the new official record for Northern Ireland - in spite of that paving.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Exactly 50 Celsius temperature range between the coldest and hottest temperature recorded at Castlederg.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    A chilly and damp day here in Meath, wouldn't be out of place at the end of October, cloudy, damp with drizzle and 13C.



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