All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

But those big tech companies do have offices large enough to accomodate all who were working in-office before the pandemic on-site. And they want to use that investment to the best of their ability, it obviously is a waste of money if you have an enormous google HQ with only 25 percent occupancy. So yes I do fear that eventually we will see a large percentage of the unvaccinated fired. But I do hope that you are right and that this will not happen.

So have I, but the offices are still there, they didn't fall into the Liffey.

Mandating Covid vaccination for people like hospital workers - where it is just one addition to the other mandatory vaccines - is not about reducing personal rights for the medical professional, it is about maintaining the freedom and personal right of the customer - the lung cancer patient, who has a right not to get an additional infection that could cost her life.

Just out of curiosity, what country are you from?

I agree to the extent that under capitalism a disaster will always be exploited by corporations, etc. However I'm not sure your logic here adds up.

The implication is that Big Pharma trumps all other business/industry put together as it has the leverage to halt everyone else's revenue streams if they don't get their cash first. That doesn't ring true.

Secondly, would the virus not mutate in the non-vaccinated population - the larger the population the better - and therefore possibly require further medication that will generate more Big Pharma profits?

Must wreck the conspiraloons heads that theres been such a great uptake with the vaccines. Great to see their heads melting in front of our eyes.

You do realize that the distribution of vaccines around the world is not equal right? In many African countries, vaccination rates are as low as 7%. Or even lower. Not because all of them antivaxxers, simply because they are not sending enough vaccines to those countries.

If it were Big Pharmas aim to save as many human lives as possible, they would have equally distributed vaccines to all countries on earth wherever possible (perhaps bar some countris like Yemen that are currently at war). They didn't do that; instead they sold them to the highest bidders, which are obviously the Western countries.

And if it were the Government's aim to save as many human lives as possible, we already know full well what you need to do to accomplish that, and that is to follow the New Zealand/Australia strategie of local lockdowns and closing your borders. At least the Irish government didn't do that.

Call me again once all the vulnerable and medical workers (who want to) have been vaccinated in even the poorest countries.

Nobody said 'big pharmas' aim was to save as many lives as possible - someone would have to be very naive and simple minded to think that.

Pharma companies, like any other companies, are in it to make money. It's fairly simple economics. It's what all businesses are there to do.

That doesn't meant their products don't save lives.

And in those African countries do they have the same infrastructure as we do? the same access to medicine? the same access to food? to goods/services?

Yet out of a broad problem that's been inherent in that region for decades, you've managed to magically single out pharmaceutical companies as the villains. Which by some remarkable coincidence is also a belief you happen to hold. Which by another incredible coincidence is also abundant in every anti-vaxxer, whether it's 5G, Bill Gates, microchips, "BiG PhArMa", etc.

Hmmm.

Their products indeed save lives, if administered to the elderly, vulnerable and public officials such as nurses and hospital workers and doctors yes. Including those who are in poor, african countries.

Call me when all those people have the jab and then I'll reconsider getting mine. Thanks.

A vaccine that is very unlikely to save my life is not a basic like drinking water, electricity or internet.

There is indeed a very, very, VERY small chance that I die from covid when I contract it unvaccinated. I find the chance so low, that I do not see the need to take the vaccine. Send mine to africa please.

'Call me' when you respond to what I wrote rather than a strawman of your own concoction.

Your position seems to merely be an irrational fear of the vaccine as I can't see how anything you've written supports your decision.

I agree that Big Pharma will exploit the pandemic and saving lives isn't their priority but merely a side effect of selling their product. That's not a reason not get vaccinated.

I agree that most governments are to varying degrees in the pockets of corporate/monied interests (of which Big Pharma is but a fraction). Likewise, not a reason not to get vaccinated.

I agree that that the vaccine should be supplied en masse to the globe, regardless of expense/who can pay. Ditto, not a reason.

As I wrote previously, isn't it logical to suggest that the greater number of people who aren't vaccinated, the greater chance of mutations and thus greater opportunity for Big Pharma to profit from our misery? So if you resent this pandemic profiteering - as I think most sane people do - why would you refuse the vaccine and add to the possibility of creating greater windfalls for the profiteers?

But doctors don't agree with you.

Why would they advise people to get the vaccine if it's not needed?

Why are they lying?

Why are you right about the vaccine but trained doctors are not?

Also, given your sudden concern about African health care could you tell us what you've actually done to help improve it?

A donation to the Gate Foundation perhaps?

Or is the concern more empty hot air like your attempt to stand up to "invaders"?

Right

Off the top of my head on this forum:

Covid is a plot to usher in global Communism

Covid is a plot to usher in global Fascism

It's a plot by Bill Gates to depopulate the planet

It's a plot by the NWO

It's a plot by the Elites

It's a plot by government all over the world to destroy their own economies

It's a plot by Satan (from several different posters)

and many, many more

And just in this thread:

All measures will be permanent

Many measures will be permanent

Some measures will be permanent

Some measures will be permanent but only in Ireland

Measures are being lifted, but they'll come back and be permanent

Dozens of wrong predictions, dozens of absurd conspiracies and not one poster has coherently explained a) why any measures will be permanent or b) any conspiracy theory

Hundreds of pages of complete and utter drivel over the last year and a half :)