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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,028 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Why what did he say ? I’ve long stopped watching the briefings because they were never really good news.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 teabag1993


    That actually leads on to a point I forgot to mention, hospitalisations in England are rising and have been rising steadily.

    Deaths are still low though thankfully, it would seem that the majority of people over there becoming infected are younger



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭growleaves


    There seems to be a buried assumption in a lot of places that anyone who has taken a vaccine automatically agrees with the 'internal passport' scheme.

    Surely this is not the case?

    Total-surveillance is an issue in its own right. I don't want to be presenting QR codes and identification documents for everything I do, everywhere I go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭aziz


    Some thing along the lines of making recommendations to the government for further relaxations of restrictions and we can be out of this sooner than we think


    yeah,I know,bizarre



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,152 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    The cynic in me says they held them back because there weren't enough deaths to keep stirring up Project Fear from NPHET.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,307 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I assume since this is the alleged thread of the 'loopers' and 'conspiracy theorists' you're just trying to fit right in?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭mcsean2163


    Schools finished up last week, meaning the twice weekly testing of all school children finished too. In fairness to Boris, that was a good move. Hopefully all this stupidity will finish soon but have to admit worried about what will happen over winter.

    Covid19 is more transmissible in cold and dry conditions and it seems that the vaccine wears off over time. Death by a thousand cuts. Time to move on IMHO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Rules help control the fun



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Nine Covid deaths since last Wednesday as far as I know, and from what I heard from him today it does not seem so.He sounded quite positive to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,339 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Tbh I only took the vaccine because of the EU cert

    Yeah big change today with Dr Tony been positive. Remember a few months ago he was talking about Electric Picnic been able to take place etc. He's fickle so no doubt he will be back with his negativity soon enough

    Vaccine rollout is going great, a lot better than I expected. If only we could of got more of a J&J supply



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    What restrictions do you think Tony will relax?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭aziz


    He will relax all restrictions on pubs,no passes needed,sit at the bar,live music,look for a price reduction on drink and extend opening hours,maybe even going for 24 hour drinking




    sorry ,I was dreaming,what was the question again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    Stupidly got into a spat with some anti vaxxers on Reddit, they ended up banning me from the group and discussion.

    Honestly some of the nonsense being spouted was mind blowing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭Amadan Dubh


    I'd avoid reddit. It seems to be just 18 year olds who can't engage in discussion, trying to make one off, killer points in search of up votes. My limited experience with Reddit came from limited use to be fair but critical thinking is most certainly a trait lacking in a reddit poster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,272 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 teabag1993


    The contradiction by these anti-vaxxer types is beyond belief, saw a conspiracy mentioned in a BBC news article- though honestly I don't think these theories should be given any oxygen whatsoever- which tried to say more vaccinated people were dying with Delta than unvaccinated people.


    Bring on the vaccine passports I say



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ireland is going to pieces .The sad thing in all of this is society getting divided this is never good. We’d a civil war here before with family fighting against family and neighbour fighting against neigbour ( very dark times which thankfully most or all of us here will be too young to remember ) but who would want that again, absolutely no one, we’ve progressed to be tolerant people or at least thought we had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,339 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    we'll be grand

    Once more of the population are fully vaccinated and get there EUs. Indoor pints galore



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    NPHET have PR people telling them when to lift the tone. This week there was the pat on the heads for people getting vaccinated. And something something about lifting restrictions but completely vague. They're trying to position themselves as good guys and in couple of weeks time they'll go after the people who are not getting vaccinated.


    Strategy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Who are these pr guys?

    Haven’t seen sight nor sound of them before.

    who’s paying them? Who appointed them?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    It's tricky though. You can get 70 to 80 vaccinated easily enough but the lower percentiles need to be treated more delicately. They need to be a bit more creative. I was reading today that the travelers were originally offered Jansen or Astra which got Pavee doing their usual shíte and that had the effect of getting travellers to demand Pfizer, two shots boss. You could do similar with other segments of the "hesitant" populations like the work-shy classes by having characters from Eastenders or Love Island get killed off by refusing a vaccine while another gets the ride after a change of heart. The middle-class anti-chemical moms (their word not mine) could be made aware of gluten and chemical free versions of the vaccine or even fair trade versions, grown by orphans who lost their parents in a Chinese Holland and Barrett. You can get the anti-government types of which we have very few here by telling them "No pub for you" - they tend to be full of it.

    There are going to be a few mixed messages for sure but you have to remember that mainstream media is there to manipulate the lower percentiles. The upper 80% or so are doing just fine on their own without government intervention. They've figured out that vaccines are preferable to the disease itself. And because antivaxers come in all sorts of classes, 80% of their efforts are going to be focused on that bottom 20% who haven't figured it out yet, as is tradition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Humour can be light here, but that made me laugh. Even if sadly there is a percentile where those suggestion could actually work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,112 ✭✭✭prunudo


    This would be take on it too. I've never watched a full briefing but between reaction here and news correspondents on twitter I've usually got the jist of their tone and messaging. There haven't been many but occasionally the cmo has been positive going by his standards. Almost to the fact you think actually maybe he is human. Unfortunately everytime within a short time he reverts to his true form and comes out with a lecturing tweet or pontificating sermon at the next briefing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,600 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    How are we getting divided? We haven’t been divided on restrictions throughout the pandemic, the clear majority of the electorate have been in favour at all times.

    Now we are not divided on the vaccine, given we’ll have a 90%+ uptake.

    So where is the division?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Ashdublinc13


    What about people that just don't want to take it? They've heard the about the side effects. How will the government 'encourage' this group to take a vaccine?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Ashdublinc13


    Facebook and Google reporting employees need to be fully vaccinated against covid 19 to return to the office. Why do employees just need to be vaccinated against covid? What about other vaccines and viruses/ diseases? Does a company have the right to this information? If so, does a company have the right to other medical information? Leaving aside medical information that could impact a job. Thanks. It's probably a silly question



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    You can't they will likely catch it and get immunity that way or have had already had it and not realised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    90% uptake of the vaccine does not mean 90% support of restrictions. People got it for the herd, not to access ‘indoor dining’



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,406 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Considering the IQs of most anti-vaxxers I highly doubt many are working for those companies, so it's not likely to be much of an issue imo.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,900 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Anyone want to hazard a guess when masks will no longer be needed?

    Surely we've reached herd immunity with the reports yesterday of 79% fully vaccinated?



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