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Has the 1 week downtime & move to vanilla killed this place?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Does anyone know how to shut down your boards account? I tried looking it up, but since that link is now dead, I can't find it.

    I've tried this new layout-it's not working for me. So I'd rather just kill my account.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Buzzin-Hornets


    Well said.

    For what it's worth, although certainly not perfect at the moment, I welcome the move to a more modern, scaleable platform. It's actually what prompted me to sign up again.

    It will get better in time. I know first hand how difficult migrations can be. So well done @Boards.ie: Niamh and co on what was a difficult undertaking.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I found this on another thread - 'if you want to close your account you can email hello@boards.ie or datarequests@boards.ie and we'll do it for you manually here.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,655 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Scalable, but in which direction? Given the user base is diminishing, will it be trimming the fat to make the experience load at a less than glacial pace?

    There's a certain irony that the ad that keeps popping up is one for a website builder (and its not vanilla)!



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Buzzin-Hornets


    😄 I'm not seeing any ads.

    I mean scalable in terms of its functionality and ability to upgrade. Of course if what you say it correct then scalability in terms of needing resources won't be a problem.

    Edit: Dynamic is the word I probably should've used.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Think of it like a building/bridge with a serious structrial defect. It's going to fall down eventually, so do you replace it now, or wait for the final collaspse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    I once had a post on Reddit deleted because I wasn't verified as BIPOC. There was a large discussion about Ireland on it. They wanted a picture of the colour of the skin on my arm before I could post...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    The set up for some is different BUT the barometer that I am seeing is that the first page of after hours still has posts going back 2 days. Previously you might only see posts going back 6/7 hours before having to move on to page 2.

    A lack of m.boards has seen my usage decrease. Far too difficult to navigate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,494 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I miss the old format layout



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  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Arthur Fent


    It's a load of bollix...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    It was one click to see my threads before on mobile. Now I simply don't know where any of them are.

    It's definitely a step back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,972 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    It really is bad and I don’t think people are being hyperbolic when they say it’s now a “ghost town”.

    When I find the threads I’m generally a part of nobody is posting. The abysmal effort of the mobile site will do damage. The weeks downtime made people move on. The pains of navigating the new site will do the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭Celticfire


    I've been on this site for years and while not the most prolific poster I did spend a lot of time browsing various forums and topics. This new layout and navigation is horrendous. There's and old saying , " if it ain't broke , don't fix it " .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,164 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    i commented this morning and i'm still on the front page :)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    How was it broken? And if so, fine, its broken or its out grown the previous platform.

    But migrate to something better, not some bag of sh1t platform.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    It was very unstable and the whole thing was a patchwork of add ons and sticky plasters that could (and did) topple over at any moment. A change was needed. Unfortunately it does not seem to be going well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Does anybody know where one can obtain the list of moderators of a particular forum... maybes I’m going blind but I’m not seeing it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    It is not available at the moment. If you want a list for a specific forum I can find out for you. Just pm me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    There’s more wrong with this site now then what’s right with it.

    its an awful pity.boards was great.could they not shut it down for another week and put it back the way it was.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Lovely analogy, but let me take it further.

    You are worried the bridge will fall down so you start building a new one to replace it.

    But the old four lane bridge with speed limit of 100kph on nice tarmaced surface is closed and replaced by the half build bridge with only two gravel covered lanes open, speed limit is down to 40 kph, you have traffic lights in the middle and it no longer links up with roads on one side but ends in the middle of a field.

    I have done a fair migrations in my time, mainly ERP and service desks/help desks.

    If I was responsible for a comparable fook up on this scale I would have ended up with an ERP system with half the stock missing, half the customers missing, no way of adding orders and no way of quering pricing.

    I think everyone would deem that an epic failure.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The idea that the switch was made without full functionality of the My Forums feature absolutely boggles my tiny little mind. It's how the majority of regular users navigate the site. It's really put me off even browsing now both on PC and phone because it's a shambles trying to find most of the forums I'd look at the most.

    The Save Draft feature is annoying as sh*te too because sometimes I'd half type a message, decide not to post, and then can't get rid of the f*cking thing because it keeps showing back up in the text box the next time I visit the thread, not to mention it's more difficult to delete links and quotes.

    There just also seems to be a ridiculous amount of redundancy in the new system. The Activity function only seems to appear on the mobile site, yet it's utterly pointless anyway. Clicking Discussions and just Boards.ie at the top banner is basically the same thing. The range of emojis is stupid too, this is a discussion forum not a Whatsapp group.

    Whatever about the stability and stuff on the backend that will be beneficial to the Boards team etc, the useability of the site and some of the new features for me now are utterly pointless and detract from the user experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    I only use the mobile site, and since the upgrade, it's absolutely sh1te.


    Its rotten looking, weird scrolling motion, there's no proper separation to the posts, it's just horrible to use.


    The lack of activity and usability here has driven me to the other site (I'm not gonna spam it) which is easy on the eyes, easy to use and is gaining in nunbers of users (including prolific and known users) so that it FEELS like being back on Boards.ie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    I fully agree with you. Any migration plan should have include a trial "pre-migration" with some QA and at least some minimal UAT with either the mods or some trusted users.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Resource issue I would guess. There are only a couple of people employed by boards.ie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    UAT doesn't need to be done by staff. A small panel of volunteers, mods and end users (i.e., us) would have identified loads of problems that could've been addressed in advance. I daresay there's a good chunk of users with design/testing experience, too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭archfi


    To be fair and to be obvious, there is a massive resource that was always available - users of the site.

    Some of them even have professional knowledge, imagine that!

    The issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution.

    The Entryism process: 1) Demand access; 2) Demand accommodation; 3) Demand a seat at the table; 4) Demand to run the table; 5) Demand to run the institution; 6) Run the institution to produce more activists and policy until they run it into the ground.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    They're popping up on the threads in the feedback forum frequently enough. They've acknowledged that people are frustrated.

    The whole thing has been badly handled that's as clear as day, but it's easy for us to speculate and say what we would have done differently without having any first hand knowledge. We haven't a clue what behind the scenes goings on set of circumstances led to the current state of affairs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭dingle1969


    Is there any forum where we can provide feedback?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think someone is going to take advantage of this and setup a new Irish forum site which users will flock to.


    Just copy the list of forums here and set it up on another forum software and to save money only allowed embedded images.


    I can see it happening with the right person doing it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,765 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Boards. What have you done? This new platform is about as good as a kick in the nutsack. It looks similar to the old platform, but has none of the useful functions of the old. I mainly use desktop version. Multi-quote is missing and I can't find my previous posts...only threads I started. I'll give it a week or two in the hope this sheetshow get's fixed. If not, goodbye boardsies. It was fun....moreso in the early days when mods in some of the forums didn't let the power get to their heads. I think a lot of people won't return here. Booooards!

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    No info now from a username about who is a mod or what forums they are on.

    Can't figure out how to search within a thread, the old advanced search was great if you were looking for a particular post.

    Drafts are saved whether you want to save them or not.

    How can you see what posts you've thanked?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I don’t doubt that a change was needed and the site was being held together with sticky tape, but I’m not sure why they went the direction they did. The software is shite and I’m not sure it was the best option for a community platform. Someone on another thread mentioned Xenforo and at a quick glance, what they offer is far superior to what Boards has gone for with Vanilla. Xenforo was even created by the lads behind VBulletin. So while a change was needed and a move understandable, this ain’t it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Beginning to lose patience myself, we're 3 weeks in now and the site is still awkward to use. Threads Im subbed to used to get 40-50 new posts a day and now they are down to 4 or 5 posts a day at best.

    This migration was supposed to make Boards more user friendly and financially viable but the main migration that has happened here is a big chunk of the community has gone over to Reddit. Even if Boards somehow worked perfectly in the morning there is still very few people around to post and many former posters won't be coming back, thus advertising revenue will be way down and the objective of making the site financially viable is completely scuttled.

    Sad to say but I think this whole migration fiasco is the beginning of the end for Boards. Its hard to see it being around in 12 months time when the user base has been completely hollowed out and found other forums to post on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Buzzin-Hornets


    Looks pretty good. Just registered.

    See a few familiar names there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Just for the record, I take no joy in posting that or recommending the other forum. My preference was always for Boards to come back improved but they've made a total and complete balls of it.


    The lack of a public "look, we screwed up, it's been a disaster, sorry folks" stings too. We all know it, it's received almost a 100% pasting by the user base. And management clearly know, but are playing it off like it's acceptable. It's not.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Buzzin-Hornets



    I guess I'm starting to understand the frustrations. I've never a prolific poster in the past, but I suppose if I was and had invested as much time as some I'd feel the same.

    Still hope they manage to recover the situation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    I don't know why anyone's posting "they had to change, look they can fix this in a while". Nobody's disputing boards was creaking along but the bridge analogy above is perfect. You can replace software but you can't replace habitual customers. Once they're gone, why would they come back? It's not like they're being offered a better experience here.


    The engine of a discussion board isn't the software or a server, it's the users having a discussion. If that's not happening, you've no momentum and you're dead in the water.



  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How has it ended up so much slower than the old site if this is newer more modern software? Every time I press back from a post to the home page it momentarily freezes, screen then goes white, and then it reappears and is responsive again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I wonder if the new site is a bolt hole set up by boards.ie that they can turn off in a few months when this place is sorted?

    That’d be some Machiavellian shít.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Just found an advanced search function with a list of recent posts made. Its in the magnifier search and then type user name in the Author field. It only has recent posts for new site though - no sign of older posts. Will they be back at some stage?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    The new site reminds me of the description given to the British Labour parties election manifesto in 1983


    " the longest suicide note in history "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭archfi


    hey! it's ok though, the mod/admin tools have been fixed for all the huge increased number of posts on the site now...

    users...um, well eventually we might be able to navigate somewhat, sometime...in the future.

    The issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution.

    The Entryism process: 1) Demand access; 2) Demand accommodation; 3) Demand a seat at the table; 4) Demand to run the table; 5) Demand to run the institution; 6) Run the institution to produce more activists and policy until they run it into the ground.



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  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Admin are the Arthur Scargills then. Cool.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    At least navigation is better than immediately after the changes, but lack of My Forums is a big issue. Bigger is that the place seems quieter. There would usually be a few new threads on the Latest Posts worth clicking into, but they all seem totally boring at first glance. And when I'm away from the site, I just don't feel any urge to come back, like I did before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I can’t see any notable improvements on the user end after last night’s down time. Site is still as slow as Christmas. What is actually going on?



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,717 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    Long termer here and I'm struggling for the last week. I can't even get to the Mod forum on mobile. My question is UAT testing, who performed it and why wasn't the colossal change in user experience noted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    Another big issue is that when drunk it's even more impossible to find your threads and forums. Tested that last night myself.



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