Vaccine Megathread No 2 - Read OP before posting

The UK? 🤣

People have short memories, there was considerable debate back in April re use of AZ and clots, supply issues etc. The HSE/ Government decided to press ahead and use it on one specific age cohort of the general population. Varadkar and Coveney and others stated to the concerned 'Take it or go to the back of the queue' https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40267394.html

Apart from the known issues re clots and supplies, the 3 month gap between doses was known.

We didn't have the 'Delta variant' then but this is of course just a moniker for the Indian variant and the rising catastrophe in India was well understood and widely reported then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_India_(2021)

There were concerns about a variant that would spread more quickly and/or evade vaccines.

Despite this, the HSE/ Government adopted a strategy that left people in their 60s exposed. It's as simple as that. I have cousins and siblings who were all fully vaccinated several weeks ago. When I mention that I've caught Covid, their response and from others in that that sort of middle aged group is one of 'Oh, well sure you're vaccinated and all, so should be no issue'. Because that is their experience. When I add whilst I cough, well actually I only got the first vaccine and obviously that only offers partial protection, they are surprised as they all the media messaging is that the vaccine programme worked from older age groups downwards.

So yes, the HSE/ Government should have applied the same vaccine strategy to citizens in their 60s as they have largely applied to all over 70s and all under 60s.

The last update on that was that the HSE had begun their due diligence process.

What's that? It's the part where you bring in specialist auditors to validate that the cold chain for the vaccines that Ireland is buying, has adhered to regulations and is unbroken. This involves inspecting the facilities and the records for every location these batches have been and making sure everything is above board. If these batches have been moved (e.g.) between five different storage facilities, but one of these facilities doesn't have the correct controls in place or can't produce detailed records for the batches' time in that facility, then the whole lot of them are only fit for the bin.

So as you'd expect, this is a painful process that takes some time.

Do we have any indication as to how many mRNA vaccines are actually coming through every week? There seems to be a hell of a lot, given that the portal has already been opened to 18 year olds plus and it's still only July 22nd.

This sounds a bit Captain Hindsight doesn't it? I don't remember anyone in the groups who were offered the extremely scarce vaccines turning it down. At the time, a single dose of AZ was more than adequate for coping with the most prominent variant at that time, Delta didn't emerge until much later in the year.

If we had to re-do it knowing what we know now, there probably isn't a lot which we would have done differently.

I see a lot of fully vaccinated people are in hospital now with covid. Strange times

According to the Irish Times, this week and next week we'll be getting 210,000 mRNA vaccines.

I've calculated by looking at the German vaccine delivery schedule and adjusting pro rata that we'll get 50k AZ this week and approx 25k J&J next week.

The mRNA vaccine deliveries are increasing to 240,000 per week in total in the first week in August.

In some centres it's running 25-27 days right now, so it can be under 28

That's very good news. With the new age cohorts, this means that virtually every dose is flying out the door and being administered asap. No wonder the MVCs are absolutely hopping.

That 210k is divisible by 5 and 6 and 7.

If I assume the vials are all the same size and the HSE assume 6 doses/vial that's 35000 vials.

Is this a fair assumption?

There was talk of larger vials to ease production bottlenecks but I don't know if Ireland gets them.

Furthermore (from my second dose appointment experience) they are "confident" of getting 7 doses from a vial. Have the HSE addressed this?

Has this not been the problem since the very start.

Numbers not reliable.

How many people under 40 were admitted because of COVID.

Would be relatively quick to do too, wouldn't it? Considering our speed and the size of that group.. ?

Anyone notice a huge increase in anti vaccine crap all over social media ever since the digital cert was introduced?

I would always see the odd person who were anti everything and gubberment are this and that and the big evil pharma companies.

Now I am noticing normal people sharing all sorts of crap .. I have actually started to mute people now on different platforms. Even close friends.

A lot of very dubious YouTube video from so called medical doctors . When you Google these so called doctors it turns out most are holistic or herbalist doctors.

A lot of people getting drawn into believing a lot of crap .. Two people today trying to convince me covid was a ploy just to get people jabbed and “ controlled “