ROLL IT BACK

Leg End Reject · 22-07-2021 4:20pm

I'm getting tons of notifications since the "update" and I can confirm that lots of posters are seeking access to the soccer forum!

Pintman Paddy Losty · 22-07-2021 4:23pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117647400#Comment_117647400

Been in a situation like that before Gill, not pretty. Don't think this is comparable. Anyone can just log off and do something else. Getting fecal matter lodged deep in the japs eye isn't something you can just walk away from.

(Edit: Just to say it wasn't a Nigerian who I've always found to have the highest of hygiene standards.)

cdeb · 22-07-2021 4:33pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117647522#Comment_117647522

You wonder would it be easier to let everyone in by default, and then reduce it by banning troublemakers in the normal way

Discodog · 22-07-2021 4:57pm

There is good news for some. It appears that all the previous forum bans have disappeared😉

EmmetSpiceland · 22-07-2021 6:02pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117647735#Comment_117647735

Hopefully the mods/admins will “tack on” a week, at least, onto any bans currently being served by those who just couldn’t behave themselves on the site.

It’s only fair considering the rest of us, who managed to stay within the “rules”, missed out on a week of site usage.

Overheal · 22-07-2021 6:08pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117647490#Comment_117647490

I would have thought it would have been among one of the first things someone wrote down and said 'yeah, we need to keep this feature intact'

I can tolerate the rollout issues, and I can feign patience, but what cannot be faked is that all of the forums I follow are basically dead at the moment if there's nothing to read, there's nothing to reply to, and no reason to re-visit.

22-07-2021 6:31pm

I feel they shot themselves in the foot with this update.and how they are being silent over it speaks volumes.

jmayo · 22-07-2021 6:40pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117646122#Comment_117646122

No he is the guy that says this about himself on the internet...

Odhran has been responsible for driving business strategy, growth and profitability at leading internet companies both in Ireland and internationally. His background is building teams across product development, sales and marketing in a diverse range of both B2B and B2C businesses. He has held executive positions at Daft.ie, Jobs.ie, Adverts.ie. Ding.com, Distilled Media, xSellco.com and Boards.ie.

PS I would have used the quote function, but I can't find it anymore.

Oh there is another thing fooked up the Editor.

Well if this is how he drives business and growth, then good luck to Boards.

Larbre34 · 22-07-2021 6:46pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117646122#Comment_117646122

It's still a commercial operation. There are still subscribers. He still bears responsibility.

He should resign and hand over to someone who can lead a project to roll back some or all of this disastrous misstep, before it's too late to save the site at all.

jmayo · 22-07-2021 6:46pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117648062#Comment_117648062

There is always one. ⛲️

KyussB · 22-07-2021 6:54pm

Ahem:

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117328809#Comment_117328809

Told you. Well done on sprinting into the wall.

EmmetSpiceland · 22-07-2021 7:04pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117648253#Comment_117648253

I’m not sure that’s a good idea. I doubt they could get anyone with the necessary “experience” to take the job.

I know there’s a few “techie” types on here who think they’d be well able but this isn’t some ‘Call of Duty’ or ‘Warcraft’ LAN, it’s a business.

Esel · 22-07-2021 9:17pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117647251#Comment_117647251

Change the default options in Profile -> Notifications

There are a load of them preset. I unticked the vast majority of them.

Larbre34 · 23-07-2021 12:05am

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117648320#Comment_117648320

Which was my first sentence.

It need not be a permanent job, a short term contract would do it, but the Chief Exec needs to go

Mickeroo · 24-07-2021 8:58pm

Deleted a few off topic posts. If folks want to squabble about the merits of other websites go do it somewhere else.

Thanks.

24-07-2021 9:00pm

At least all the mod stuff was fixed anyway. Priorities.

Beasty · 24-07-2021 10:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117657243#Comment_117657243

It's not. We all have very limited powers. The only thing I can do that is on a par with the old site is to siteban people.....

24-07-2021 10:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117657442#Comment_117657442

Probably wouldn’t be too bad a way to leave ye for a while and start afresh seeing as you’d all lost the run of yourselves long before the change. Fresh start and a happier site overall would be great.

24-07-2021 10:24pm

Roll back so that the Prison can have spectators again. The spectators cannot Thank the mods there either.

Remember Covid 19 don't matter.

Leg End Reject · 24-07-2021 11:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117657503#Comment_117657503

I hope that post made sense to you ...

Overheal · 25-07-2021 7:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117657442#Comment_117657442

(Don't test that theory)

25-07-2021 7:58pm

Why is the soccer forum different from the rest? It's as dead as everywhere else but looks even worse. Why all the avatars?

26-07-2021 12:45am

More than a week later, even the 'like' count display issue hasn't been resolved. Such simple things.

The footer links are still dead ends and apparently hosting is still by Digiweb Hosting.

What an absolute dogs dinner ye've managed to make of this once great resource.

How are the users who haven't jacked it in here already supposed to have any confidence in boards staff and their providers over in Canada when this basic stuff hasn't been dealt with yet?

I hope ye plan a career change whenever boards dies in the hole you dug for it. Who in their right minds could overlook the incompetence on display?

Burt Renaults · 26-07-2021 2:31am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117661260#Comment_117661260

This is very harsh and unnecessarily personal. They'll get the site back to full functionality - just be patient and give them the time they need.

26-07-2021 3:19am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117661389#Comment_117661389

Nonsense. It's not personal criticism at all. As professionals, as paid staff working with their new vendor and led by their CEO, they screwed up. As a user/contributor for many years now, I'm really disappointed with how what was once an online community has been taken for granted, with little to show that the user-base were anywhere near the top of their list of priorities. Why have we not seen a fallback position adopted here? Forget about the clear lack of solution validation and UAT we're all able to see in effect; Why was this not rolled back 48 hours after it was clearly not working? Technically, there's no good reason why not.

This isn't new technology, at least not the discussion part of online forum functionality, so there's really no argument to be made that doesn't come down to this whole exercise being something driven by interests other than those of the community and user-base. There's stubbornness and ego at play here. Someone's been sweating with a shovel in their hands, digging down instead of out. It's a poxy situation for that person to put their team in, that's the harsh reality here. As a CEO, the buck stops with Odhran, for the decision made in that executive capacity and the failure to ensure continuity of service for an online platform.

Whether as a user or a tech professional, I'm saying that's simply inexcusable, so you should probably stop making them when they're fairly levelled in the direction of the people who have made a bad decision and failed to execute on whatever plan they had in mind here. I think it's fairly apparent this hasn't worked out well and the fact we're still looking at very basic issues which should never have been present when the migration was given a green light just paints it in a harsh light for anyone who looks at this for what it is. It's a total balls-up.

I've no doubt that the staff are under a lot of pressure. They're looking at the very thing that created a reason for their employment go off the rails. Spin doesn't fix the problems for us or for them. This isn't the 1990's. We've all been using online platforms for decades at this stage and have seen the good, the bad and the ugly. This is absolutely looking like an ugly migration at this point in time. I can't for a minute believe they're so entrenched in their positions that they can't see how the user-base is up in arms about this and if they actually put themselves in the community users shoes, they have to recognise that to be an understandable viewpoint and sentiment to be expressed.

@Boards.ie: Odhran , it's time you actually spoke up here, acknowledged that this has happened while you were at the helm and that you're sorry for what's happened here. Fix it if you can, but you need to hold your hands up and take this criticism onboard, not hide behind your team. All that experience you have as a strategist, board member and executive over many years must have equipped you with the ability to communicate with customers (or users, here) when a business you run fails its customers in a substantial way. You've failed us here. Almost 3 weeks in without a word of apology isn't reflecting well on you as the CEO. 3rd party apologies without responsibility and accountability is worthless.

26-07-2021 3:52am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117661260#Comment_117661260

It's so easy as well to fix things like that. I'm guessing they'll get around to it to it some day.

fritzelly · 26-07-2021 3:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117661439#Comment_117661439

Shhh, you'll be giving them ideas 😉

26-07-2021 4:15am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117661441#Comment_117661441

They call custom javascript "JS hacks" so.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

mfceiling · 26-07-2021 4:23am

New site is rubbish.

I found out yesterday how to follow forums on mobile. Great. Follow 2 particular forums and now when I open them all the threads are mixed up between each other.

Complete balls of a site.

threeball · 26-07-2021 7:37am

It feels like a site where they closed the old version down then sat down to have a meeting about how the new one should work, knowing they had to be back up and running in a couple of days.

I know its free to all users, but as they say if you're not the customer, you're the product. One of the worst handling sites I've ever used whilst the last was excellent. Not a clue why anyone would bother change it bar maybe some cosmetics.

Kintarō Hattori · 26-07-2021 5:23pm

As a site user of 20 odd years and someone who checked in multiple times per day, I just want to say I'm disheartened with the current incarnation of the site. What was once so elegant and seamless to navigate, is now slow, clunky and awkward to use. Boards simplicity was its biggest advantage and allowed for free flowing discussions and fostered a unique culture. In its old form it was a delight to visit, read the various threads and interact with 'friends' you had built up over the years.

Some may well like the new look, some may be patient and give it time but it feels like a death knell. I'd never consider myself a troglodyte. I'm all for progress, innovation and moving forward. Things need to evolve but as it is, this feels like a devolution and while I'll hang in there for a bit longer to see if things improve, I worry that the place I visited every day will be receiving one less visitor in the near future.

shanec1928 · 26-07-2021 8:57pm

The definition of an upgrade according to the Oxford dictionary is raise (something) to a higher standard, in particular improve (equipment or machinery) by adding or replacing components.

they have so far missed the mark its beyond mental how it even managed to get this far and now ignore users feedback. No users = no forum. It’s fairly simple. The feedback forum must be the most active since the upgrade and that’s saying something.

They haven’t even got an updated privacy policy or cookie policy both of which are required under gdpr. I’d have some concerns about any data processing agreements they have signed given the incompetence that has been shown so far.

it’s sad that a few users have provided code to make a better user experience and it’s been completely ignored. If it was my site I’d be extremely embarrassed about that and the lengths people are going to just to be able to use the site.

Deja Boo · 27-07-2021 2:13am

Vanilla seems to have ripped the good things of Boards to shreds, and made it hard to navigate what's left. :(

Deja Boo · 27-07-2021 2:45am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117646122#Comment_117646122

What is this "small" you're referring to?

You mean the largest Internet forum in Ireland? The site with "more than 360,000 members, 3,200,000 threads and 64 million posts"? The site which "expanded into a number of other countries"?

...That "small" message board? 🙄

chewythefirst · 27-07-2021 3:45am

All i want is a dark mode option again :( to dame bright!!!

GBX · 27-07-2021 11:09am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117666395#Comment_117666395

Thread here (https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058200272/diy-desktop-site-customisation-use-at-own-risk#latest ) on using an add on with Chrome to enable dark mode (among other adjustments to how the site looks) or you could use a full on extension for complete dark mode with no other changes to how it looks.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dark-reader/eimadpbcbfnmbkopoojfekhnkhdbieeh?hl=en

cdeb · 27-07-2021 11:15am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117666358#Comment_117666358

The one that actually made it onto XKCD's map of the internet in 2010.

https://xkcd.com/802_large/

I think to be honest, the changes being made are decent, and I can understand the need to switch from an old platform - but really the two key items for me (and probably most users) are notifications by thread, not by post (otherwise I get to 99+ and I delete them all) and auto-subscribe to threads you post in (otherwise you lose them)

I don't think they've been addressed at all as yet?

loyatemu · 27-07-2021 12:17pm

why the move away from vBulletin to Vanilla though - I don't remember seeing an explanation for this. vBulletin is still being developed and supported right?

Hogzy · 27-07-2021 1:46pm

Not being able to view my own posts is literally a 101 feature that EVERY discussion board/forum has, yet its gone on boards.ie. Half the threads i followed, I cant find, as I cant see my posts. What the hell like, why is that feature gone. Ye have made an absolute meal of this update. Did any research go into this at all or even do a test run and get some market feedback. Who ever is behind the wheel at boards.ie needs to take a serious look at their ability to deliver. Boards has been on the downward for years and now and this might be the final nail in the coffin. Such a shame to see it but its worse as this is such an own goal. Boards is, and has been, a wonderful community.

spaceHopper · 27-07-2021 2:35pm

Having to have threads explaining how to use the new side it total faining of design, alway remember "if you are explaining you are losing"

It's been well over a week now and it's still sh1t, totally sh1t, the new look and feel gets in the way. For example I can't quote one sentence from another post, only the whole thing. And that is just one thing. Come on boards explain your plan to fix this or role it back and say sorry.

Oat23 · 27-07-2021 3:06pm

i'm not one for knee-jerk reactions but the lack of activity on the few forums/threads I use almost 2 weeks after the update is shocking. The communities are dying.

I realise it's a long climb down and a bit embarrassing, but you guys need to face facts. The move to Vanilla will kill boards and plans need to be made to move back to vBulletin before it's too late. This is one of only two internet forums I still use and I use it because of the people, half of whom I haven't seen post since before the update and a few still posting hate the new site. It's only a matter of time before they stop visiting as much as they used to and then eventually never visit.

GLaDOS · 27-07-2021 3:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117668890#Comment_117668890

At a minimum something has to be done about the soccer forum. One of the busiest forums on boards is a ghost town.

27-07-2021 3:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117668890#Comment_117668890

Noticed the distinct absence of "The usual suspects" myself. Maybe offer some morsel to entice them back? And becoming boring.

cdeb · 27-07-2021 3:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117668918#Comment_117668918

A problem with that seems to be that it doesn't appear on the main list of new posts.

I wonder would it be better just to allow everyone access to it? The threads would appear on the front page then.

I know access was requested previously because of the amount of ****-stirrers in it, but you could deal with them by banning them in the normal fashion.

Deja Boo · 27-07-2021 3:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117668298#Comment_117668298

Try this: https://boards.ie/profile/comments/

I am starting to save the ^ many helpful links (the admins and mods are posting in various places) on my profiles "activity" box (copy and paste, then hit share to save them on your profile), so I won't forget how to do what we used to be able to do, and have them at the ready when needed.

KilOit · 27-07-2021 3:49pm

Surely it's time for a new website to be created in the aftermath of this update? a new completely separate team with expertise to capitalize on the failings here. i'd gladly jump ship. I don't even visit this site much now, can't get my head around it and so frustrating I can't locate certain topics I had saved. who the hell cares for booking marking threads!

Leg End Reject · 27-07-2021 4:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117669020#Comment_117669020

Just be aware whatever you post there is public. If you go to the bottom of any page and click on 'Activity', you'll see what everyone else has done.

You're not adding anything private, but just be aware if you post on another user's wall everyone can read it. A but like the old profile page visitor's messages, but no option to set it to private.

27-07-2021 4:17pm

Okay, FFS how hard is it to reinstate the follow "My Forums"? function?

I've an absolute pain in my arse now having to endlessly scroll up and down through categories to try and find stuff I posted on before, and squinting at lists of links that are not even laid out in a way that makes them easy to read.

Enough is enough, Boards. Fix it.

helimachoptor · 27-07-2021 4:24pm

Honestly, this is a complete shambles.

The site is unusable, the UX is utterly terrible. Roll it back now.

Oat23 · 27-07-2021 4:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117669085#Comment_117669085

This won't work. Boards is all about the community that has been formed here over the past 20 years and the information in the thousands of threads created over that time. They need to fix THIS site.

ROLL IT BACK

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