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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Well, looks like it's doomsday for the Tesla owners out there

    I for one am happy to pay any amount of money Elon demands for the privilege of using such a high quality network for my lowly VW 😁

    It looks like access will be through the Tesla mobile app, which I guess would remove any need for other manufactuers to do much work and would allow Tesla to charge other cars whatever they wanted. Anyone want to bet it'll be 73c/kWh? 🤣

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Better be 173c kWh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,264 ✭✭✭✭ted1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,396 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Post written by Stephen Homles on LinkedIn but I came across it on Reddit. We've seen plenty of ridiculous questions regarding EVs so Stephen did the same for ICE.


    I am thinking of replacing my electric car with a petrol car and have some questions.

    1. I have heard that petrol cars can not refuel at home while you sleep? How often do you have to refill elsewhere? Is this several times a year? Will there be a solution for refueling at home?

    2. Which parts will I need service on and how often? The car salesman mentioned a box with gears in it. What is this and will I receive a warning with an indicator when I need to change gear?

    3. Can I accelerate and brake with one pedal as I do today with my electric car?

    4. Do I get fuel back when I slow down or drive downhill? I assume so, but need to ask to be sure.

    5. The car I test drove seemed to have a delay from the time I pressed the accelerator pedal until it began to accelerate. Is that normal in petrol cars?

    6. We currently pay about 1.2p per mile to drive our electric car. I have heard that petrol can cost up to 10 times as much so I reckon we will lose some money in the beginning. We drive about 20,000 miles a year. Let's hope more people will start using petrol so prices go down.

    7. Is it true that petrol is flammable? Should I empty the tank and store the petrol somewhere else while the car is in the garage?

    8. Is there an automatic system to prevent gasoline from catching fire or exploding in an accident. What does this cost?

    9. I understand that the main ingredient in petrol is oil. Is it true that the extraction and refining of oil causes environmental problems as well as conflicts and major wars that over the last 100 years have cost millions of lives? Is there a solution to these problems?

    10..I have heard that cars with internal combustion based engines are being banned to enter more and more cities around the world, as it is claimed that they tend to harm the environment and health of their citizens?? Is that true??

    I may have more questions later, but these are the most important ones to me at the moment. Thank you in advance for your reply.



  • Moderators Posts: 12,420 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Amazing what people accept just because it's the norm. The "mining materials forces child labour and ruins the planet" one always gets me. You'd swear oil extraction and refining wasn't terrible for the environment/nations/animals/health/energy consumption.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Not to mention that it's the main customer of that particular material often associated with the child labour and dodgy mining practices


    I'm sure the oil industry steers well clear of that however, they never get involved with any person or organisation of ill repute

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    I’ll just wait for Toyota to release a self refuelling car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭kanuseeme




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Oh but it would be wrong to accept government subsidies while charging such a high price 😉

    My bet is 69c/kWh, undercuts Ionity and fits in with Tesla's S3XY jokes

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Why under cut ionity, charge plenty, get the good PR of opening up for all cars, but not have everyone choosing a supercharger over ionity.

    They are self funded. And it's a perk of having a Tesla.


    *And I'm not a Tesla owner, but will it would be nice to have that option if I was stuck and needed a quick charge. And if it was expensive, it would be quick lol



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    True, plus I suspect many Tesla owners wll be unhappy if other cars are getting a good deal for Superchargers

    If they open the network then they're eligible for grants. I can't imagine Tesla will be saying no to that

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Prague which is the same population as Dublin & Suburbs and similar area too:

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    I think it's 45-50 DC on the same area, roughly.

    Latvia is doing very well given it's small size...

    Bratislava, a city size of Cork Metropolitan Area (400k), is not bad either:

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    Cork for comparison - whopping 5 pieces😣

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭McGiver


    The whole population density argument in Ireland must go really. It's used to block any infrastructure progress. Will never build any sort of infra with that logic...You build infra where you want to grow. Just like train track was build in Europe and the West of US 150-200 years ago. Or if it's critical infra, like motorway/core route DC infrastructure then it's a strategic matter quiet independent of density.

    Latvia has 34 people/sq. km population density. Look at their DC map. Didn't stop them building away DC.

    Finland, Sweden, Norway etc etc. Low density countries, Finland and Norway have 1 large city, 1 medium city, and then smaller towns, basically just like Ireland.

    I'd say Norway has also a lot of hytter (huts i.e. houses)...EDIT: as per Statista 77% Norwegians lives in a hut.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    If you were the guy in the white ID4 this morning in Dingle you couldn't have been luckier. A blue ID4 was pulling out as I was unplugging my car so you had the 2 sides to choose from!!

    A girl in a focus quickly pulled into one space and asked me "can I park here if my car has no cable?". I told her not to as it's like blocking a petrol pump and there are only 2 of these charging points on the entire dingle peninsula. I gave her directions to a nearby carpark and off she went!! Thankfully in Dingle this last month I've seen no ICE cars blocking the charging points.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    So down around Cork at the weekend, saw a few Leafs but wow a lot of ID4's a few ID3's but by far the most common was the Model 3, rakes of them.

    SuChargers were well in use, both stalls used while I was there for 3 charges in Mahon point and there was an X and two Model 3s in Ballacolla on the way home. Chap I was chatting to at Ballacolla said 6 in his workplace had just got MIC M3's for reduced BIK and all delighted with them, some serious charging rates at Manon for the M3 MIC



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Stopped at Mayfield this afternoon for a nosey at the new chargers and a quick coffee. An elderly lady pulled in to a bay in an A3 hybrid. Her and her son were struggling big time with the cables. They were trying to put their charging cable into the end of the DC fast charger cable!!

    I went over and got her sorted (it's ac only so she moved to the regular charger which is untethered). Both of them had loads of questions about cables, the ESB app, how long would €20 credit last, apps for finding charge points etc. It's obvious that some dealers aren't too bothered about helping out some people after the sale is made. Did anyone here get much advice from the dealer after the sale or was it a case of "here's the keys and good luck"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Oh dear, a PHEV at a DC charger! There'll be war yet 😆 & you, a BEV driver, aided & assisted 😝.

    IIRC, the new A3 has a decent sized battery for a PHEV - 15kWh & can charge at 11kW on AC. Still, she'd need to stay connected for well over an hour & pay close to €5 for enough charge to travel just 50kms max, at motorway speed, while blocking any AC43kW capable Renaults.

    I dunno, but people paying €40k+ for a brand new car, yet having no idea what they are buying, or how to best use them, seems mad to me. A salesman is gonna sell whatever he is most incentivised to sell - it's not their job to educate the public or forward environmental issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253


    Does a new M3 come with a granny cable (sorry if this was asked before)?

    I was up near Achill last week and was able to charge my ID.4 using the supplied granny cable, but my neighbour in his M3 had to use whatever public (not supercharger) facilities he came across. There are a few public sites around the area which would keep you going, but I was surprised he didn't get the cable with the car and he hadn't seen one before?

    Would there be any issues using a branded granny charger with a different make of car?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Does a new M3 come with a granny cable?

    Yes.

    Maybe his is in in the boot under the false floor or hidden elsewhere, in the frunk? It comes in a square black bag & he should check with Tesla if he didn't get it. I'd be surprised at that though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭fits


    There was zero parking available in Dingle yesterday so yes very lucky. Saw a few id4 s around and yes a few model 3 as well. Is yours grey? If so I walked by you in car park across from church. You wont spot me though in my non ev 😀



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    😂😂 Mine is white and I'm back in the pale!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Guy Martin on channel 4 now...the world's fastest electric car!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    Disappointing end ☹️

    Should have used a Tesla Model 3 LR for that trip and would have been a doddle and much cheaper!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253



    "How many electric car charging points are there in Ireland? The short answer is no-one seems to have a precise figure"



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    That "article", as usual loads of fact errors. It states Tesla destination " 'chargers" (should read charge point) are up to 6kW, they are up to 22kW. Also states there are 6 Tesla Supercharger locations when there are 5.

    I don't know their exact number but fair play to EasyGo is they are up to 400.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    and even the 5 sites could be actually called only 4 sites as 2 of them are just at opposite sites of the carriageway… so technically 5 sites, but in reality only 4.


    an error strewn article like that on EV’s/charging is par the course really these days…. Even the slightest bit of research on the subject would have corrected the inaccuracies, or feck it, even just ask an EV driver to proof read it!!!


    eCars really need to get their arses in gear for the avalanche/snowball of new EV’s currently rolling down the mountain…….


    I know Mayfield is still in test phase despite being officially opened (I was there twice and the site was maxed out with 4 cars charging! (a 5th car could have plugged in……….. on AC)) , but surely the issues now are with the units and not the ground works (which seemingly took months to prepare), so why aren’t they starting the groundwork’s on the next 2, 3, 10 sites?


    Or maybe they are pinning all their hopes on Musk opening up his ever expanding network of Supercharger hubs so they can concentrate their efforts on expanding the Nissan Leaf network.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Big assumption eCars are SME on the chargers they’re installing.

    Into my 5th year EV driving and I highly doubt this is the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253


    Can you take the driving test in an EV in Ireland?



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  • Moderators Posts: 12,420 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Sure can. Sure there's driving schools in Ireland with EV options.

    The article above just sounds like typical Americans on a power trip.



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