If Herd Immunity Is Not Reached In Ireland

Thanks for that. A fantastic article!

As of yesterday (Jul 16, 2021), 53.36% of the total population of the UK was fully vaccinated (35.5 million out of a population of 66.67 million). 68% have received an initial dose. The 87.6% figure above is of the adult population not the total population.

The UK does not have any plans to vaccinate under 18s and will not reach herd immunity through vaccination. While Ireland is planning on vaccinating 12-15 year olds in the Autumn, the UK is planning on administering boosters as they believe these may be needed for those who received the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The UK would appear to have a 'let it rip' strategy that will mean all under 18s and the unvaccinated will contract covid over the coming weeks and they hope to reach herd immunity in this manner.

The term 'new normal' triggers people. But if a politician says we won't get back to normal in the foreseeable future, the media and people assume it's lock down for ever. What they actually mean is we'll get back to a new normal.... not going to work when you have a respiratory virus, perhaps people will voluntary mask up during flu season on public transport, perhaps the constant hand sanitizing and cough etiquette will become the new normal (I don't think anyone can disagree with that).

These are things are are common place in Asia, due to their experience with SARS and MERS etc... That is their normal.

We've only experienced a 'new normal' in the form of air transport, post 9-11, the likes of Isreal, that was their normal etc...

wrong thread..still getting lost with no lay out.

It's at 87.6% of adults who have had their first dose, not 87.6% of the population. It's 68.2% of the total population who have had one dose, and 53.18% who are fully vaccinated.

Just under 46% fully vaccinated, and a little over 62% with at least one dose.

2,277,860 second doses + 160,609 J&J

2,438,469 fully vaccinated out of a population of 4,982,907 = 48.9%

2,791,631 with Dose 1 + 160,609 J&J

2,952,240 with at least a single jab = 59.2%

Or am I missing something glaring obvious?

Professor of Virology from UCC was on the radio last week. He said standard multiplier for persons infected is 3 to 5 times actual detected cases. You need to add these to the vaccinated cohort but then take away those who were mosyt likely vaccinated & infected.

So if 250k have trested positive then the real figure is 1 million. Out of those 1 million 55% were also vaccinated so you add 450k to the fully vaccinated figure towards herd immuinity.

Hope that makes some form of sense. Essentially this is what Boris is doing. Instead of forcing the young to get vaccinated he is allowing it to rip through them to achieve herd immuinity. Apparently far cheaper than paying for vaccines & the cost of administration.

If it was not going to be a problem they wouldnt be trying to win the race to adjust vaccines against COVID, the know it is coming, they are hoping that they win the race. Germans this morning already talking about a third shot being needed by October this year by some people. Additionally, what people have forgotten is, what will happen when we all start living without masks ... the flu etc. will have a field day as our immune systems will not be as fit as without a mask. How many people do you know who had a bad flu in the last 18 months?

Dont get me wrong, I am greatful for the vaccine, also encourage people to get it, however I dont think it is as simple as people think. The only thing we can hope for is that the more people who are vaccinated the less people will be hospitalised. However, the problem with vaccines are that people can still contract the virus and pass it on, meaning people have a false sense of security.

Israel is already doing booster shots to those most at risk.

If people keep passing it, it will mutate once again. Mutations will at some point become vaccine immune. The virus will adapt to ensure it survives, so every time it is passed on is a further risk.