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swiwi_ · 05-07-2021 05:26PM

Croatia is the first European country I can remember in recent times with an actual road border: queues, angry looking border guards, passports for everyone, COVID certs for everyone. Like the good ol’ times. They even have their own currency, which looks expensive until you do the maths (math for dubinusa). Country is cheap as chips though.

Teferi · 06-07-2021 09:22PM

Got the J&J yesterday - has hit me like an absolute truck today.

Squidgy Black · 06-07-2021 09:28PM

Teferi wrote: »

Got the J&J yesterday - has hit me like an absolute truck today.

My parents got it a day apart about a month ago, my ma was grand and my da got absolutely smacked around by it, which was very quickly met with quips about man flu.

Did you get it through the HSE or through a pharmacy?

sydthebeat · 06-07-2021 09:30PM

Going in for my second Pfizer tomorrow.

No effects from the first other than a slight tiredness.

06-07-2021 09:40PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

Going in for my second Pfizer tomorrow.

No effects from the first other than a slight tiredness.

I've had both mine and thankfully nothing more than a slight pain in my arm each time.

Stheno · 06-07-2021 09:46PM

Ashlyn Delightful Voter wrote: »

I've had both mine and thankfully nothing more than a slight pain in my arm each time.

I had both mine. Was flattened for a week both times with joint pain and inability to sleep

Still done now

Teferi · 06-07-2021 10:00PM

Squidgy Black wrote: »

My parents got it a day apart about a month ago, my ma was grand and my da got absolutely smacked around by it, which was very quickly met with quips about man flu.

Did you get it through the HSE or through a pharmacy?

Got it through a pharmacy. He said he had about 40 doses and then was hoping for more today but didn't seem confident - I think there will be a bit of a backlog in the chemist system.

awec · 06-07-2021 10:01PM

I had no real reaction to both Pfizer's either.

I see Eamonn Ryan is talking about August now for indoor dining. :rolleyes: They must be getting tired moving the goalposts so much.

Stheno · 06-07-2021 10:03PM

awec wrote: »

I had no real reaction to both Pfizer's either.

I see Eamonn Ryan is talking about August now for indoor dining. :rolleyes: They must be getting tired moving the goalposts so much.

I put my reaction down to a. Possibly having had Covid and b. I only weigh 55kg so the vaccine dose hit me harder tbh

I'm sick of the lack of clarity from the govt

Squidgy Black · 06-07-2021 10:09PM

Teferi wrote: »

Got it through a pharmacy. He said he had about 40 doses and then was hoping for more today but didn't seem confident - I think there will be a bit of a backlog in the chemist system.

Good stuff, yeah any of the pharmacies I spoke to when I rang them over the weekend were in fire fighting mode around here, one around the corner had to take the phone off the hook on Friday because they're only a small independent place and as soon as the announcement was made they had hundreds calling.

Podge_irl · 06-07-2021 10:10PM

Stheno wrote: »

I put my reaction down to a. Possibly having had Covid and b. I only weigh 55kg so the vaccine dose hit me harder tbh

I'm sick of the lack of clarity from the govt

I was flattened for two days after both Moderna

I am very much not 55kg

hold my beer · 06-07-2021 10:12PM

Only had the 1st Pfizer so far, with no side effects other than a slightly sore arm. Hopefully it's the same with the 2nd dose

Teferi · 06-07-2021 10:14PM

I will add my voice to the definitely-not-55kg (read: fat bollix) crowd and still got flattened.

awec · 06-07-2021 10:18PM

I went for a feed of pints the same day I got my second dose and the day after, so this may be a way to avoid having a reaction.

Not yet scientifically proven.

molloyjh · 06-07-2021 10:28PM

Stheno wrote: »

I put my reaction down to a. Possibly having had Covid and b. I only weigh 55kg so the vaccine dose hit me harder tbh

I'm sick of the lack of clarity from the govt

The problem is that they don't have clarity. They can't give us clarity if they themselves don't have it. Its a swiftly evolving situation where the more info we have the better prepared we'll be. We just have to wait to get that info and hope it doesn't run contrary to the data gathered previously.

Former Former Former · 06-07-2021 10:29PM

fitz wrote: »

What does it mean for the 36% then? If it's only effective against infection for 64%, then it was ineffective for 36%. There's no other way to read that data.

There is, unfortunately.

Your maths only works if 100% of unvaccinated people would catch Covid in identical circumstances. No virus in history has ever been that virulent and Covid certainly isn't, even the Delta variant is nowhere close. That's sci-fi movie stuff.

A better way to think of it is if 1,000 unvaccinated people and 1,000 vaccinated people behave in exactly the same way and are exposed to exactly the same risk: if 100 unvaccinated people and 36 vaccinated people get it, then you have 64% efficacy.

Or put it another way. 64% efficacy means you're three times less likely to catch the virus than an unvaccinated person.

But I'll bet that many of those Israeli infections were in people who had only recently had their second dose. As more people become vaccinated and for longer, the problem will resolve itself.

If you want something to worry about, it's that so many people (esp in the UK) have had the AZ vaccine which is rubbish in comparison.

sydthebeat · 06-07-2021 10:30PM

awec wrote: »

I went for a feed of pints the same day I got my second dose and the day after, so this may be a way to avoid having a reaction.

Not yet scientifically proven.

I wish to subscribe to your methods

fitz · 06-07-2021 10:31PM

Teferi wrote: »

I will add my voice to the definitely-not-55kg (read: fat bollix) crowd and still got flattened.

I'll add myself to this list too. Achey all over within a couple of hours of first jab, with headache too, and them completely wiped out the following day, had to be woken up for lunch and dinner, and I love my grub.

fitz · 06-07-2021 10:36PM

Former Former Former wrote: »

If you want something to worry about, it's that so many people (esp in the UK) have had the AZ vaccine which is rubbish in comparison.

Both my folks got AZ... It's absolutely worrying me.

Dave_The_Sheep · 06-07-2021 10:58PM

I've been pretty phlegmatic about the vaccine rollout, but after several weeks of being registered (I'm 38, registered the first day) and no sign of a registration text (I've logged in to make sure there isn't a glitch, there isn't), it's starting the get a little frustrating. Not only have 18-34 year olds opened up via pharmacies, 30-34s are opening shortly, and plenty of places down the country have loads left over and are doling it out to 20 year olds or whatever. Most people I know in their 30s have at least one dose, if not two at this stage.

Citiwest seems to have massive delays, the one my area is assigned to. My partner is 40, waited 4 weeks for a text, nothing, had to call them up three times to get it sorted. Another week delay after getting the text though.

Maybe if there are such obvious delays, and bugger all delays in other rural areas, it might possibly, just possibly point to the need for there being another bloody vaccination centre servicing this highly populous area.

Ah, I'm just venting. But it is starting to frustrate me quite a bit.

jacothelad · 06-07-2021 11:07PM

Former Former Former wrote: »

There is, unfortunately.

Your maths only works if 100% of unvaccinated people would catch Covid in identical circumstances. No virus in history has ever been that virulent and Covid certainly isn't, even the Delta variant is nowhere close. That's sci-fi movie stuff.

A better way to think of it is if 1,000 unvaccinated people and 1,000 vaccinated people behave in exactly the same way and are exposed to exactly the same risk: if 100 unvaccinated people and 36 vaccinated people get it, then you have 64% efficacy.

Or put it another way. 64% efficacy means you're three times less likely to catch the virus than an unvaccinated person.

But I'll bet that many of those Israeli infections were in people who had only recently had their second dose. As more people become vaccinated and for longer, the problem will resolve itself.

If you want something to worry about, it's that so many people (esp in the UK) have had the AZ vaccine which is rubbish in comparison.

Not True at all.
Going by clinical trial results alone the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna jabs have the highest efficacy – scoring 95 per cent and 94.1 per cent respectively. However, as data from mass administration of the vaccines begin to emerge we are getting a clearer picture on the real-world effectiveness of all of the jabs.
For example, data from Public Health England in May showed that both the Pfizer and the AstraZeneca jabs prevented 90 per cent of infections in the real-world after both doses.
That's actually even better than the AstraZeneca jab's trial efficacy results, at 76 per cent after one dose and 82 per cent if the second dose is given 12 weeks later.
Other vaccines do not yet have such strong real-world data to back up trial results.
The J&J vaccine – which was tested in the United States, South Africa and several Latin American countries – had 66 per cent efficacy overall, but this varied depending where it was tested. For example, in the US the vaccine achieved 72 per cent efficacy, but in South Africa – where a new variant was running rampant – it was just 57 per cent.

fitz · 06-07-2021 11:09PM

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

I've been pretty phlegmatic about the vaccine rollout, but after several weeks of being registered (I'm 38, registered the first day) and no sign of a registration text (I've logged in to make sure there isn't a glitch, there isn't), it's starting the get a little frustrating. Not only have 18-34 year olds opened up via pharmacies, 30-34s are opening shortly, and plenty of places down the country have loads left over and are doling it out to 20 year olds or whatever. Most people I know in their 30s have at least one dose, if not two at this stage.

Citiwest seems to have massive delays, the one my area is assigned to. My partner is 40, waited 4 weeks for a text, nothing, had to call them up three times to get it sorted. Another week delay after getting the text though.

Maybe if there are such obvious delays, and bugger all delays in other rural areas, it might possibly, just possibly point to the need for there being another bloody vaccination centre servicing this highly populous area.

Ah, I'm just venting. But it is starting to frustrate me quite a bit.

Am in the same catchment area...I'm in the 40-44 cohort, and I waited the three weeks from registration date that they said I'd get a text within, and then rang the HSE line first thing the morning it went past 3 weeks. They escalated and I got a text the following day, appointment 5 days later. Give that a try maybe. I know a couple of 39 year olds who were done Monday, both after a frustrating wait like yours, and both of whom got texts last Friday. So hopefully you won't be waiting much longer.

But pretty clear the Citywest catchment should have had another vaccination center to serve it alright... There's clear delays even against other Dublin centres, never mind the rural ones.

molloyjh · 06-07-2021 11:10PM

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

I've been pretty phlegmatic about the vaccine rollout, but after several weeks of being registered (I'm 38, registered the first day) and no sign of a registration text (I've logged in to make sure there isn't a glitch, there isn't), it's starting the get a little frustrating. Not only have 18-34 year olds opened up via pharmacies, 30-34s are opening shortly, and plenty of places down the country have loads left over and are doling it out to 20 year olds or whatever. Most people I know in their 30s have at least one dose, if not two at this stage.

Citiwest seems to have massive delays, the one my area is assigned to. My partner is 40, waited 4 weeks for a text, nothing, had to call them up three times to get it sorted. Another week delay after getting the text though.

Maybe if there are such obvious delays, and bugger all delays in other rural areas, it might possibly, just possibly point to the need for there being another bloody vaccination centre servicing this highly populous area.

Ah, I'm just venting. But it is starting to frustrate me quite a bit.

I understand that. My wife is 3 years older than me. She was able to register 4 days before me. It took 2 days to get her date for her first and 6 days after registering she had her first dose. She got her second today, exactly 28 days after her first. I got my first dose on Friday, 24 days after she got her first! I was waiting a day shy of 3 weeks more than she was. And we're in the same area abs same vaccination centre (obvioisly).

Dave_The_Sheep · 06-07-2021 11:22PM

fitz wrote: »

Am in the same catchment area...I'm in the 40-44 cohort, and I waited the three weeks from registration date that they said I'd get a text within, and then rang the HSE line first thing the morning it went past 3 weeks. They escalated and I got a text the following day, appointment 5 days later. Give that a try maybe. I know a couple of 39 year olds who were done Monday, both after a frustrating wait like yours, and both of whom got texts last Friday. So hopefully you won't be waiting much longer.

But pretty clear the Citywest catchment should have had another vaccination center to serve it alright... There's clear delays even against other Dublin centres, never mind the rural ones.

Aye, once I hit four weeks, I'll be calling them daily until they escalate it. I think the general proceedure is once the four weeks is up, then they ask you to wait 5 days after that, then they can escalate it. But I'm going to try and poke them into doing it anyway. My gf called up after 3 weeks, was told to wait 5 days, then called five days later. They tried putting her off and telling her to wait another five days, but she was having none of it. Still took another two calls to get sorted though.

What irritates me most is that I'm technically part of cohort 7, but didn't realise it, so I could have been sorted ages ago - eejit. And now my GP isn't doing any more vaccinations and will do bugger all to help me out.

Squidgy Black · 07-07-2021 01:24AM

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Aye, once I hit four weeks, I'll be calling them daily until they escalate it. I think the general proceedure is once the four weeks is up, then they ask you to wait 5 days after that, then they can escalate it. But I'm going to try and poke them into doing it anyway. My gf called up after 3 weeks, was told to wait 5 days, then called five days later. They tried putting her off and telling her to wait another five days, but she was having none of it. Still took another two calls to get sorted though.

What irritates me most is that I'm technically part of cohort 7, but didn't realise it, so I could have been sorted ages ago - eejit. And now my GP isn't doing any more vaccinations and will do bugger all to help me out.

If you're in a cohort that's under the open schedule I think you can register online with boots for Pfizer, I'm not 100% sure how fast they are/how many doses they get but it might be worth a shot or even giving your local one a buzz.

Citywest seems to be a complete disaster

swiwi_ · 15-07-2021 05:23AM

Well hello there.

15-07-2021 06:27AM

Oh this looks awful on my phone....

Buer · 15-07-2021 06:39AM

Oh this is a bag of sh*te.

I blame awec.

15-07-2021 06:40AM

This mobile site just isn't good. Not even how it looks, the functionality isn't there.

Lsdrugbyfan · 15-07-2021 07:00AM

Oh dear....

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