Anyone not getting the vaccine?

Fairly hesitant myself, not anti vax, just hesitant. I’m yet to find a solid reason as to why I should get it, doesn’t prevent me catching or spreading covid.

If it wasn’t for the whole travel thing I probably wouldn’t get it.

Arturo Delgado wrote:

You just get abused here, and in fairness, anywhere else if you are vaccine hesitant. I personally would wait until or if the Novavax one gets approved. But that's just me.

I disagree. Nothing wrong with being vaccine hesitant. I have no time for when people post made up anti valentines information but I think it's perfectly reasonable to be scared or hesitant.

quinneerr wrote: »

Have you seen the videos of reactions?
Have you seen the videos of people testifying months later of the life changing reactions they have had and continue to suffer?
Curious as to why people trust J&J, Pfizer and Moderna, a few minutes searching will show you the out come of these 3 pushing dangerous products on the public, would it not be wise to wait until the clinical trials are over , and then make a informed decision?

1. Do you have clear evidence of a causal relationship between the perceived "reactions" suffered by the subjects in those videos and the vaccine dose in question?

2. Is there any evidence that the person (in the videos) who suffered the reaction to the vaccine, notified the responsible medicines authorisation body, e.g. EMA, MHRA, about the reactions? If so, what has the authorising body done about this?

Taking videos posted on the internet at face value is, ahem, rather naive IMO.

quinneerr wrote: »

I'm not going to jump on anyone hesitant.. but what are these images supposed to represent?

The science behind smoking (for example) being bad was established pretty early on.. the marketeers just decided to ignore it..

I mean these are all examples of science that should have been trusted but were willfully ignored.

quinneerr wrote: »

Not an anti-vaccine person

Yes you are.

quinneerr wrote: »

Grave yards are full of heroes.

Why get an experimental vaccine with ZERO knowledge of the medium to long term effects for a virus that in reality wont effect 99% of the population?
This is what has me puzzled, risking your health when you know the history of these type of companies in the pursuit of profit.

There is something called 'State of the Art'. No credible scientists will ever claim they know everything and all claims are made according to our best knowledge at the moment.

Sure, sometime someone is wrong. Sometimes facts need corrections. Our knowledge expands and evolves, new things are discovered etc.

But does it mean you shouldn't trust science and do exactly opposite? In. No, in longer span of time following the science is better, even if it sometimes is wrong.

Current vaccines are , at this stage, very well tested. Results published in reviewed papers - and the scientific consensus is that it is much better to get one, anyone of those approved, than not to. No guarantees, but propability of severe complications from vaccine are much smaller than propability you'll get Covid and severe complications from it.

That's science. Not absolute truth, but best we can do at the moment.

quinneerr wrote: »

I have had several vaccines, so if that makes me antivax, im perplexed as to what would make someone provax around here, just blindly shove anything into your body and hope for the best?

Most antivaxxers would have been vaccinated as a child. Hard to say no to a vaccine when in diapers and haven't been brainwashed by YouTube yet.

TP_CM wrote: »

We're pro vax but hesitant with this one because we're going for another kid and we haven't seen enough information around parents who had the vaccine pre-conception and the health of the baby after birth (autism etc). I will more than likely get it as soon as my part is done though. I'll fully support whatever the missus wants to do but from what I've heard so far she's going nowhere near it.

Curious as to why you think it would cause autism?

quinneerr wrote: »

People testifying at hearings into vaccine side effects look convincing to me.
It would seem this part of boards is heavy pro covid vaccine and does not want any kind of debate on the risks, maybe most here are already vaccinated and dont want to acknowledge the doubts arising on a daily basis about the safety of these vaccines, maybe one day you will be open to debate, until then a i wish you all, vaccinated and unvaccinated good health

No point in debating when one side is basing their info off scientific research and the other is basing their info off youtube and memes