Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

facehugger99 wrote: »

Top 5 stories on BBN News Website

• Forces to quit Afghanistan Base
• Boy Scouts Sex Abuse Compensation
• Lebanon Energy Crisis
• Toppling of statues in Canada
• Microsoft Windows Operating System update

Top 3 Stories on RTE News Website

• Vaccine for Younger people
• India Covid death toll passes 400k
• Australia tighten borders to curb Virus

People are being played for fools in this country and there are many too stupid to even see it.

Same in the rest of Europe. Covid is a side issue on many national websites atm.Still there but not headlining, despite Delta.
Ireland IS the only country with full, constant Covid profiling, designated time slot every day on RTE w actors keeping it in your face, online, on TV and radio.
It is so interesting to see the juxtaposition between ourselves and everyone else.
Now, what wouldve happened if a different CMO w have taken a more relaxed view with support for the relaxation of restrictions but keeping an eye on future developments? The government wouldve proceeded w the july5 opening, taking the country in a more positive direction and THAT would imo have been fully supported by RTE as well.
George Lee et al wouldve come on and be the messenger of hope.
Instead we got TH and the rock of doom and the message was swallowed wholesale..

The figure for those fully vaccinated and hopefully more or less fully protected is 45% and c 70% who have had one dose and would have a high degree of protection also. The unknown figure must be those who were infected but had no symptoms. There must be a lot in the younger age group like this who have had no vaccination yet but presumably are carrying antibodies. When you add these to those vaccinated there must be a very high level of protection in the general population yet Nephet only focus on the vaccinated figure.

Patrick2010 wrote: »

The figure for those fully vaccinated and hopefully more or less fully protected is 45% and c 70% who have had one dose and would have a high degree of protection also. The unknown figure must be those who were infected but had no symptoms. There must be a lot in the younger age group like this who have had no vaccination yet but presumably are carrying antibodies. When you add these to those vaccinated there must be a very high level of protection in the general population yet Nephet only focus on the vaccinated figure.

They are focusing on what has happened in the UK and projecting it to happen here and their real interest is in case rates.

Patrick2010 wrote: »

The figure for those fully vaccinated and hopefully more or less fully protected is 45% and c 70% who have had one dose and would have a high degree of protection also. The unknown figure must be those who were infected but had no symptoms. There must be a lot in the younger age group like this who have had no vaccination yet but presumably are carrying antibodies. When you add these to those vaccinated there must be a very high level of protection in the general population yet Nephet only focus on the vaccinated figure.

They are focusing on what has happened in the UK and projecting it to happen here and their real interest is in case rates.

Red Silurian wrote: »

Ah of course... That sounds completely logical and not at all like what a crank in a fear machine would say

In your opinion possibly.....

But the point made earlier that Ire news has very little interest in showing anything but COVID was well made.

namloc1980 wrote: »

They had a full house for the snooker final in Sheffield 2 months ago. We still can't have any organised indoor events except for, bizarrely enough, weddings.

Don’t forget that indoor dining resumed in Ireland on the 2nd of June.




Granted that it was very effectively protected against covid because the patrons were dining in a building that also had mattresses which clearly protects people from contracting the virus as there haven’t been any notable outbreaks in the hotels of Ireland since they opened a month ago.

Quags wrote: »

The "Delta" variant has a case fatality rate of 0.1% (Public Health England, 11 June 2021).
The true infection fatality rate is lower than this.
Common symptoms are said to include a headache, sore throat and runny nose.
In other words, it is a cold.

I think you may be mixing up initial symptoms and the risk of illness from a covid infection.

While many may experience only a mild infection - its certainly not 'a cold'

In the UK Meanwhile, infections from Delta are reported to be growing by between 2% and 5% each day.

Those at risk from more serious illness includes those who have had just one dose of vaccine as well as those who have none.

Here's some first hand accounts of those who have been infected with the Delta variant and found it was not a "cold"

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-sky-news-correspondent-enda-24438092

https://9now.nine.com.au/today/coronavirus-sydney-adam-marshall-describes-symptoms-after-being-diagnosed-with-delta-strain/9b666799-55a4-4151-8c12-82251b6d105b

Red Silurian wrote: »

What reports specifically don't follow the science? Can you link me to one example of this in the last 2 weeks?



Because it's not there, because it's not there...



Do you people actually realise how stupid you all sound? I'd be embarrassed to type that kinda tripe online

I'd be embarrased to be as blind as you are as to what is going on. It's media manipulation of the worst kind and you are falling for it hook line and sinker. Questions popped up at the start of the week around the accuracy of the NPHET modelling that delayed reopening, and suddenly RTE etc go in to full blown doom mongering mode? They might be fooling some but thank **** some people in this country are finally opening their eyes to the bull**** we are being peddled. The media in this country should hang their heads in shame, not a single journalist among them with the balls or integrity to start asking serious questions about this. Nope, just nod along with Tony and MM and peddle the ****e.

DarkJager21 wrote: »

I'd be embarrased to be as blind as you are as to what is going on. It's media manipulation of the worst kind and you are falling for it hook line and sinker. Questions popped up at the start of the week around the accuracy of the NPHET modelling that delayed reopening, and suddenly RTE etc go in to full blown doom mongering mode? They might be fooling some but thank **** some people in this country are finally opening their eyes to the bull**** we are being peddled. The media in this country should hang their heads in shame, not a single journalist among them with the balls or integrity to start asking serious questions about this. Nope, just nod along with Tony and MM and peddle the ****e.

Yes, all the media are wrong and a few conspiracy theorists on boards are right... Sounds logical haha

Got that link by any chance?

FlubberJones wrote: »

At least we agree you're a clown.

If the likes of you think I'm a clown then clearly I'm doing something right

Ballynally wrote: »

sorry, i take it all back.I guess im too stupid to understand.
Thank you for your considered response.
Now, where is that ignore button!?

Click my username in the top left corner, it's one of the last options on the list

Ballynally wrote: »

i suggest you put him on the ignore list like i did.
No need to get aggravated.
My ignore has grown quite nicely. Almost incrementally.Life is so much better..

A big ignore list probably says more about you than anybody you ignored

MOR316 wrote: »

I'm unsure of your tone here. It's quite cutting and insulting to many and I can't understand why and where it's coming

Out of curiousity, can I ask what's your particular issue with that protest/gathering?

I'll be more cutting and blunt, they're idiots all over the kip with their ideology, or lack of, as they haven't really a notion as to what's connected to what.

Where are you getting your sizable majority notion from? Everyone is fed up, but not to the point where they all just want to sit in a pub regardless.

But sure their gut feeling....

gozunda wrote: »

I think you may be mixing up initial symptoms and the risk of illness from a covid infection.

While many may experience only a mild infection - its certainly not 'a cold'

In the UK Meanwhile, infections from Delta are reported to be growing by between 2% and 5% each day.

Parts if NI are now also at their highest rate since January. But sure people will try find a way to bull**** those figures.

DarkJager21 wrote: »

Na I'm not putting anyone on ignore, I have no problem with him (we simply disagree on the media role in all of this scaremongering). Nothing gets solved by putting fingers in your ears.

At least we can agree ignorance gets you nowhere... Did you manage to find evidence of the below? You knwo the proof that RTE are not following the science? All it takes is one article from the last 2 weeks

Ballynally wrote: »

Yes, you are right.
Just like they are reporting the Truth.
You know, following the Science..
In case you didnt get that, i meant it ironically..

Red Silurian wrote: »

Looks to me like RTE are just reporting the news, but each to their own

In fairness, it'd be difficult to come up with a better illustration of my summation.


Many thanks.