Vaccine Megathread No 2 - Read OP before posting

Goldengirl · 01-07-2021 08:39PM

harr wrote: »

Sorry to hear you are in limbo and I don’t really have an answer for you but I feel your GP should not have given you the first shot if they knew they were not going to be able to administer a second shot.
All you can do is keep ringing the HSE daily or multiple times a day till you get an answer.

Yes . Agree with you there as second doses are meant to be accounted for , maybe the HSE were not notified in time or GP should have called dbb in for their second dose .
All can do is keep on to HSE helpline every day .
Probably waiting on another delivery of Moderna , and there must be some others needing odd doses like that .

DoodleDooBoo · 01-07-2021 08:47PM

harr wrote: »

Sorry to hear you are in limbo and I don’t really have an answer for you but I feel your GP should not have given you the first shot if they knew they were not going to be able to administer a second shot.
All you can do is keep ringing the HSE daily or multiple times a day till you get an answer.

I completely agree, the GP definitely shouldn't have administered the first dose, but I guess at the same time no one wants these things wasted! I just wish I hadn't been left out on a limb on my own to deal with the HSE.. wouldn't even mind waiting if I knew the GP was also advocating for me on my behalf with them.

DoodleDooBoo · 01-07-2021 08:48PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes . Agree with you there as second doses are meant to be accounted for , maybe the HSE were not notified in time or GP should have called dbb in for their second dose .
All can do is keep on to HSE helpline every day .
Probably waiting on another delivery of Moderna , and there must be some others needing odd doses like that .

I will keep calling the HSE. I wouldn't mind but I have been so polite to the guys in the call center any time I spoke with them and I keep hoping one of them will think here is there anything further I can follow up with for this nice lady on the phone to help her out :-)

Apogee · 01-07-2021 08:51PM

Wednesday 30th

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/vaccination-programme-dashboard-as-of-30-june-2021.pdf

funnydoggy · 01-07-2021 08:57PM

Apogee wrote: »

Wednesday 30th

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/vaccination-programme-dashboard-as-of-30-june-2021.pdf

+64, 867

Amazing

In the next few weeks we'll have sorted the vulnerable and then even more of the younger cohort will be done. Brilliant.

Cork2021 · 01-07-2021 09:17PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

+64, 867

Amazing

In the next few weeks we'll have sorted the vulnerable and then even more of the younger cohort will be done. Brilliant.

On the younger cohorts,
Asked the nurse today at the GPs vaccine clinic what were they actually doing she said 30-39 year olds with some 40+ second doses this Thursday and hopefully next 2 Thursdays finish the 30’s and move to the 20’s and so on! Gp is moving quickly through his patient list

funnydoggy · 01-07-2021 09:34PM

Cork2021 wrote: »

On the younger cohorts,
Asked the nurse today at the GPs vaccine clinic what were they actually doing she said 30-39 year olds with some 40+ second doses this Thursday and hopefully next 2 Thursdays finish the 30’s and move to the 20’s and so on! Gp is moving quickly through his patient list

Where are you based in Cork? Haha! My GP is great but not heard a peep from him. Great to see though!

Padre_Pio · 01-07-2021 09:36PM

Cork2021 wrote: »

On the younger cohorts,
Asked the nurse today at the GPs vaccine clinic what were they actually doing she said 30-39 year olds with some 40+ second doses this Thursday and hopefully next 2 Thursdays finish the 30’s and move to the 20’s and so on! Gp is moving quickly through his patient list

Heard the same. Friend in late 20s got the call this week from his GP and said there was near 30 people queued up outside waiting for the vaccine.

My parents early 60s got the second AZ dose recently too.

Cork2021 · 01-07-2021 09:42PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

Where are you based in Cork? Haha! My GP is great but not heard a peep from him. Great to see though!

Kanturk, I dunno how they all differ though, why some do it and others don’t

Cork2021 · 01-07-2021 09:42PM

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Heard the same. Friend in late 20s got the call this week from his GP and said there was near 30 people queued up outside waiting for the vaccine.

My parents early 60s got the second AZ dose recently too.

That’s brilliant, will plough through them so

funnydoggy · 01-07-2021 09:44PM

These vaccines will catch up with the variant in no time.

Bsharp · 01-07-2021 09:46PM

Jealous but great to hear, sounds like there'll be whole swathes of Ireland where Covid will struggle to take hold very soon.

funnydoggy · 01-07-2021 09:47PM

Bsharp wrote: »

Jealous but great to hear, sounds like there'll be whole swathes of Ireland where Covid will struggle to take hold very soon.

Little pockets of herd immunity which will grow and grow

PTH2009 · 01-07-2021 09:50PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

These vaccines will catch up with the variant in no time.

Hopefully but then the problem will be the government/NPHET won't accept it

funnydoggy · 01-07-2021 09:54PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Hopefully but then the problem will be the government/NPHET won't accept it

I have lost all faith in them with the stunt they pulled recently alright. Staying positive with our numbers though

Cork2021 · 01-07-2021 09:59PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

I have lost all faith in them with the stunt they pulled recently alright. Staying positive with our numbers though

You see 50,000 plus vaccines again given yesterday gives me great hope and then with AZ and J&J available to everyone we’ll fly through them in July

Padre_Pio · 01-07-2021 10:01PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

These vaccines will catch up with the variant in no time.

We will be swimming in vaccine in 3 months. Govt are talking about paying people to take it now.

funnydoggy · 01-07-2021 10:06PM

Padre_Pio wrote: »

We will be swimming in vaccine in 3 months. Govt are talking about paying people to take it now.

They might at the end but I would imagine once the young people can get the chemist vaccines there'll be a huge uptake! Hopefully ðŸ€ž

civdef · 01-07-2021 10:08PM

DoodleDooBoo wrote: »

Hi Guys,
Hopefully putting this in the right spot and hopefully someone might be able to either offer assistance or might be in the same boat and make me feel better! I got my first vaccine, Moderna at my GP on the 13th May as I qualifed under a medical cohort. At the time they had told me they were advised by the HSE that they wouldn't receive any further doses of moderna so I wouldn't be able to get my second shot there, but that they would assist me in locating one through the HSE.

Today marks the 3rd week that I am overdue for my second dose,ie i should have gotten it today 3 weeks ago. I've got a case logged with the HSE for the last 3 weeks and one day since I was advised by the GP to follow up with them, and every time I call the HSE for an update they just say your case is logged there's no update. I'm also unable to register myself online since my PPS number is in use from when the GP sent my name to the HSE. I've asked to speak with a supervisor or team lead at the HSE call center but they just say no one is available. Basically, I feel like I am up against a brick wall and its quite upsetting at this stage. The GP just keeps saying its nothing to do with us we cant help you.
Has anyone got any ideas or advice? All gratefully received at this point!

You could ask when your local MVC has it's next Moderna day.

Padre_Pio · 01-07-2021 10:18PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

They might at the end but I would imagine once the young people can get the chemist vaccines there'll be a huge uptake! Hopefully &#55356;&#56350;

Definitely, but if it's true that only half the 35-39 applied online, then id imagine even less 30-34 will be applying next week.

Sweet.Science · 01-07-2021 10:25PM

How close to the 8 week target should you expect a 2nd AZ vaccine

My folks are 8 weeks from their first today

Wolf359f · 01-07-2021 10:29PM

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Definitely, but if it's true that only half the 35-39 applied online, then id imagine even less 30-34 will be applying next week.

In the 25-49 age group, approximately 20% were already vaccinated before the portal opened for their age group. Not everyone will be vaccinated via the portal.

tailgunner · 01-07-2021 11:02PM

DoodleDooBoo wrote: »

Hi Guys,
Hopefully putting this in the right spot and hopefully someone might be able to either offer assistance or might be in the same boat and make me feel better!

I've nothing useful to add unfortunately, but just to say I'm in the same boat. Got my first dose of Pfizer from my GP on 11th June and was told I'd be referred to the HSE for the second dose at a vaccination centre, as the GP was finished with vaccinations.

I'm not due for the second dose till the end of next week, but rang the HSE last Monday just to make sure I'm registered. They couldn't find a record for me, but set one up over the phone.

Then today I got a call from a Dublin number I didn't recognise saying my record wasn't created correctly and they were missing my PPS number and other details, which I definitely gave them already. Sounded dodgy so I decided to ring the HSE Live number instead, and they said my record is fine and they have all the info they need.

Assumed it was a scam call, but I googled the number and I've seen it mentioned in this thread too and it actually seems legit. So now I've no idea what to think. Sounds like I might have two separate records on their system, which doesn't inspire confidence!

I'm going to leave it till the end of next week and if I don't hear anything, I'll start ringing every day until I get somewhere.

howiya · 01-07-2021 11:24PM

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Heard the same. Friend in late 20s got the call this week from his GP and said there was near 30 people queued up outside waiting for the vaccine.

My parents early 60s got the second AZ dose recently too.

Is it your GP that is giving out the vaccine? The wife got hers in one of the vaccine centres. Assumed I'd be the same. Or does it depend?

We're not with the same GP and I actually live nearer the vaccine centre than my GP as I've moved and not moved GP.

Also how long are people waiting? I'm registered two weeks this Sunday and haven't heard anything back yet. The portal says you should hear within three weeks but I know others who've got their appointment already.

blackcard · 01-07-2021 11:29PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

How close to the 8 week target should you expect a 2nd AZ vaccine

My folks are 8 weeks from their first today

8 weeks exactly for me.

Strazdas · 01-07-2021 11:33PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

How close to the 8 week target should you expect a 2nd AZ vaccine

My folks are 8 weeks from their first today

I've heard speculation that the AZ second doses could be nearly finished by July 12th or so, so your folks can expect a text very soon.

robinbird · 02-07-2021 01:26AM

Skygord wrote: »

How far are we from being able to say "our vulnerable are fully vaccinated"?

For this analysis, I've defined "our vulnerable" as:
Cohort 1 (Long Term Residential Care)

Cohort 3 (Over 70's)

Cohort 4 (Medically Very High Risk)

Cohort 5 (60's)

Cohort 7 (Medically High Risk)

According to
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/vaccination-programme-dashboard-as-of-29-june-2021.pdf

the total of these cohorts awaiting their 2nd dose is 385,394, which breaks down to:
Cohort 1: 5114

Cohort 3: 32,223

Cohort 4: 43,438

Cohort 5: 221,061

Cohort 7: 83,558

In terms of AZ Cohort 1 and 3 long finished. Cohort 4/7 stopped getting AZ 12 weeks ago so should be finished.
Which leaves the over 60s.
221K left of which maybe 200K will take second dose.
Doing 100k a week so they should be nearly done by end of next week.
With all 60s from now on getting it after 8 weeks.
That should free up the MVCs to do an extra 100k a week of Pfizer.

200k 35=39s registered. Could be even less 30-34s
At least 20% of 18=34s have gotten Pfiizer through their GPS.
They will now be allowed to get Jansen through pharmacies which could take 100k of 20s.
If they want to do it even quicker they could give Pfizer to pharmacies as well as GPs.

So if the MVCs can do 350,000 a week at full capacity.
Approx 1,400,000 for July
AZ - 200,000 (over 60s)
Pfizer 2nd doses 480,000 ( 400,000 over 40s, 80,000 cohort 7)

Which means they could do approx 700,000 first doses of Pfizer/Moderna
Should be enough to do remaining 35-49s , all 30-34s and put a big dent in 20s

See no reason anyone that wants jab can't be offered one by end July.

Prisoner6409 · 02-07-2021 01:34AM

I despair, here we are going into a 4th wave with this India Varient, when are we going to get serious about this Pandemic. You can forgive the 1st wave and maybe the second but the Govt could have done more to stop the 3rd and 4th wave. While most of use were staying in and following rules people were flying in and out of this country willy nilly and afaics it is still happenning. We are an Island, how can it be so hard to keep varients we know about that originated abroad out of the country.

Padre_Pio · 02-07-2021 01:44AM

Prisoner6409 wrote: »

I despair, here we are going into a 4th wave with this India Varient, when are we going to get serious about this Pandemic. .

Deaths are very rare now.

Most over 60s are fully vaxxed, most over 35s have gotten the first dose.

We're into the "just deal with it" stage.

In the UK, at the height of the last wave, over 1500 people were dying of COVID per day.

Now, less than 1500 have died over the past 3 months and they're deep into their Delta wave.

02-07-2021 07:15AM

Some neutralization data for J&J. Very good results. Only a 1.6 fold reduction for Delta compared to 3.6 and 3.4 for Beta and Gamma respectively. Seems to be holding up very well against variants.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.01.450707v1

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS‐CoV‐2) continues to evolve and recently emerging variants with substitutions in the Spike protein have led to growing concerns over increased transmissibility and decreased vaccine coverage due to immune evasion. Here, sera from recipients of a single dose of our Ad26.COV2.S COVID‐19 vaccine were tested for neutralizing activity against several SARS‐CoV‐2 variants of concern. All tested variants demonstrated susceptibility to Ad26.COV2.S‐induced serum neutralization albeit mainly reduced as compared to the B.1 strain. Most pronounced reduction was observed for the B.1.351 (Beta; 3.6‐fold) and P.1 (Gamma; 3.4‐fold) variants that contain similar mutations in the receptor‐binding domain (RBD) while only a 1.6‐fold reduction was observed for the widely spreading B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant.

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