Handwriting decipher thread must post link to full page

louis346789 · 18-06-2021 9:30am

Hi thanks for this. I forgot to check the religious census. Yes Millar is a local name.
Louis

L1011 · 24-06-2021 6:03pm

Entry 498, is that middle name Wilhelmina or similar?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01361/1561285.pdf

She gave W N as her middle initials at marriage (UK BMD index)

24-06-2021 6:13pm

Yes that looks right. Maybe Wilhemina, as I can't see a second letter L.

chooseusername · 24-06-2021 6:54pm

Could it be Millicent?

Spook_ie · 26-06-2021 11:24pm

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01806/1707759.pdf

Entry 154, any thoughts on middle name Elizabeth ? Murphy

Was thinking Mary but seems to be too many characters.

TIA

Deja Boo · 26-06-2021 11:53pm

it seems like Mary to me, given the way in which he writes A's - 155 informant Mary or 156 Lawrence and Sarah as examples - a loop before a descender (he just hadnt connected the 2 as well), and he seems to've made an extra effort in looping the first part of the r, making it look like more letters, but not (imo)

pinkypinky · 28-06-2021 8:32am

Hmm, that's a little tough. It's probably Mary but there is an extra loop. Several other examples of Mary on the page.

VirginiaB · 29-06-2021 8:41pm

The capital M looks different from the others on the page which all have a line starting at the bottom of the line. Could it be a W or an N? I've played around with this and am stumped.

spurious · 29-06-2021 9:05pm

I would be pretty sure it's Mary.
Looking at other pages, he is not always consistent with his initial Ms.

I have separated out the letters of what he has written.

Jellybaby_1 · 29-06-2021 11:14pm

Comparing it with 150 the mother, Mary Briscoe, it looks the same, big vote for Mary from me too.

Spook_ie · 30-06-2021 10:54pm

Thank you all, in the absence of any other evidence she will henceforth be Elizabeth Mary

Rmulvany · 01-07-2021 2:57pm

The sponsor for the baptism of Michael Brady (3rd) seems to me to read Leathe.
I've never come across this name before.

I'm usually able to figure out scribbles, could someone else help with this name?
(see attached)

KildareFan · 01-07-2021 3:07pm

Rmulvany wrote: »

The sponsor for the baptism of Michael Brady (3rd) seems to me to read Leathe.
I've never come across this name before.

I'm usually able to figure out scribbles, could someone else help with this name?
(see attached)

Looks like Cathe Hartneady? - same surname as the mother. I haven't come across that surname before.

Rmulvany · 01-07-2021 3:23pm

KildareFan wrote: »

Looks like Cathe Hartneady? - same surname as the mother. I haven't come across that surname before.

I've been reading through the NLI copies and it's been used in plenty of other names, it does seem to be a C, and the more I see it the more I think yes it's shorthand for Catherine.
Thanks

pinkypinky · 01-07-2021 5:23pm

Have moved these above 3 posts into the handwriting thread.

spurious · 01-07-2021 6:29pm

The C is the same as the placename Caher______ further up.

Jellybaby_1 · 01-07-2021 9:10pm

I am fascinated by names I've never heard of, like Hartneady. Mr. Genealogy knows all about it though.

https://www.johngrenham.com/surnamescode/grogeochart_full.php?surname=Hartneady

Rmulvany · 01-07-2021 10:36pm

Jellybaby_1 wrote: »

I am fascinated by names I've never heard of, like Hartneady. Mr. Genealogy knows all about it though.

https://www.johngrenham.com/surnamescode/grogeochart_full.php?surname=Hartneady

I hadn't realized it was that uncommon of a name. Saying that, I only have 1 so far in my tree.

Does anybody have any tips for searching Clare records (pre-1865)?
I have roots, Irish genealogy etc but the Clare record availability is poor

spurious · 01-07-2021 11:16pm

Rmulvany wrote: »

I hadn't realized it was that uncommon of a name. Saying that, I only have 1 so far in my tree.

Does anybody have any tips for searching Clare records (pre-1865)?
I have roots, Irish genealogy etc but the Clare record availability is poor

https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/genealog.htm

pinkypinky · 02-07-2021 9:20am

I know it's tough but please keep this thread for handwriting queries only.
If you want to start a new thread about Clare records, Hermy or I will happily move the above.

VirginiaB · 05-09-2021 8:40pm

Can anyone read the name of the female sponsor in this baptism? Annie ------? Right-hand page, 3rd from the bottom. From FindMyPast NY Catholic records. Gerr? Girr? Gun? Not a name I recognize.

1852-QUINLAN, PATRICK-BAPTISM-poss child of Patrick Quinlan & Margaret Gorman-IMAGE 9 of 596-Transfiguration RC Church, NY NY-12 Dec 1852-FindMyPast.jpg

pinkypinky · 05-09-2021 8:43pm

I can't zoom it up, Virginia.

If you post the url, people with a subscription can look.

BowWow · 05-09-2021 8:52pm

Annie Goor?

VirginiaB · 06-09-2021 12:55am

Wasn't sure the best way to do this but here is the link to image 9 of 596 baptism images for Transfiguration RC Parish in NY NY (Manhattan). Baby is Patrick Quinlan. Right-hand page, 3rd from the bottom. Thanks, PinkyPinky, for the suggestion. And thanks BowWow for the interpretation.

https://search.findmypast.com/record/browse?id=s2%2fus%2fnew_york%2fdrive_21%2f0035%2froll_757%2f00011

And here's the tinyurl--

https://tinyurl.com/3ryfjhdf

pinkypinky · 06-09-2021 12:28pm

It looks like Gevr when I zoom it up.

pinkypinky · 06-09-2021 12:30pm

So I don't have a url to link to here because this is a paid for record from the UK GRO. I'm look for help with 2 things please:

Occupation: collector for a ?

Cause of death: malignant disease of ? ?

VirginiaB · 06-09-2021 1:31pm

Pinkypinky, yours looks to me like "Collector for a Mission of 2 Tolmer Square Pancras".

Thanks for your suggestion for my mystery name. It will be an Irish name but is certainly not a common one.

Hermy · 06-09-2021 1:47pm

Peritoneum for cause of death?

pinkypinky · 06-09-2021 2:26pm

Yes, thanks agree on Virginia's suggestion and Hermy's but there's another word after it e---h--a?

Hermy · 06-09-2021 9:29pm

Something hernia?

pinkypinky · 07-09-2021 9:30am

Maybe?!

ambros1a · 08-09-2021 2:05pm

Alternative spelling of Asthenia (weakness / fatigue often in people with cancer) perhaps? https://www.cancer.gov/publications/dictionaries/cancer-terms/def/asthenia

pinkypinky · 08-09-2021 4:26pm

Certainly possible: thanks.

Hermy · 08-09-2021 9:06pm

Yes, asthenia looks right.

What I thought was an E is maybe just a squiggle before the A.

Elizabetha · 15-09-2021 4:07pm

Hi, would be grateful for any help to figure out the name of the person who is recorded as comon law wife of David Skerritt on the attached record.

https://buried.fingal.ie/wp-assets-bif/uploads/register-scans/St_Fintans_1973_1_097.jpg

stopthevoting · 15-09-2021 4:44pm

I think it looks like Mrs Anne Mc Donagh

pinkypinky · 15-09-2021 9:41pm

Agreed.

Spook_ie · 24-09-2021 12:07pm

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1938/08884/5213024.pdf

Looks like someone with a light touch when they wrote this one, looking at line 10 marriage of Albert A Wayte and Mary M Dolan, particularly the occupations of Albert and his deceased father.

Any thoughts welcome

pinkypinky · 24-09-2021 2:18pm

Right, the Dad says garage proprietor - which ties in with this death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1924/05025/4373793.pdf

Albert - manager of XXX waggon Co. I suggest looking in trade directories for the period.

spurious · 24-09-2021 2:42pm

'British'?

pinkypinky · 24-09-2021 4:05pm

Could be! Certainly, British Waggon Company existed. They made rolling stock.

Jellybaby_1 · 24-09-2021 8:01pm

It's British Waggon Co. And his father, something Proprietor.....Circuit Manager....Irish something, Clean?, Oil Co. That's all I can see folks.

spurious · 24-09-2021 11:38pm

I think it's 'Irish American Oil Co.'

http://www.aukevisser.nl/uk/id326.htm

pinkypinky · 29-09-2021 11:45am

Here's a new one please.

What's the Latin dispensation on the marriage of Thomas Lawless and Rosanna Healy mid-way down this page?

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633829#page/7/mode/1up

ath262 · 29-09-2021 6:14pm

its seems to be 3rd marriage for Rosanna - 1st to someone surname Ross, 2nd to James Healy then this one to Thomas Lawless - could this be the reason for the note ?

pinkypinky · 29-09-2021 6:34pm

Hmm - it's a third marriage for Thomas too! (He's my ancestor but she isn't).

Fraoch333 · 29-09-2021 9:48pm

Third time lucky for both by the looks of it pinkypinky :)

I'm hoping someone can help me with this marriage entry (I'm not allowed post links yet so have posted an image). The first townland looks like Ballington Bary but I can't find a similar townland in Rathdrum. Also would anyone know what it says after "Banns note"? Thanks.

ath262 · 29-09-2021 10:16pm

looks something like 'dispensatis a Vicarie Generali Muleta Johita' ?

if that makes any sense to any Latin expert.

The vicar general makes sense, the only meaning for muleta I see is the red cloth used by a matador (Spanish) ... maybe the red associated with a bishop ?

no clue as to the placenames, dont see anything like that near Rathdrum

pinkypinky · 30-09-2021 10:34am

@Fraoch333 - PM me or @Hermy the link and one of us can add it for you.

Fraoch333 · 30-09-2021 1:11pm

@ath262 thanks for that, it's a bit of a puzzle. Good idea on the bishop, maybe that's the answer.

@pinkypinky thank you, I'll send you a PM with the link.

Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

Comments

Handwriting decipher thread must post link to full page